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Teaching of stoicism reduces violence in British prison
https://greekreporter.com/2025/07/07/teaching-ancient-greek-philosophy-stoicism-reduction-violence-british-prison/

Teaching men it's manly to not need to act tough, not argue with each other, be humble, be above conflict, reduces violence in prison.

Unfortunately, doing this will make you look like a "wimp" if any women are watching because you'll look like you can't stick up for yourself, which means you're scared, which is unattractive to them. This then puts boys/young men in a situation where they feel like they can't just walk away from the real weak man who started the conflict, often the man who women end up perceiving as attractive because they think he's the "dominant" one or some stupid s*.

In reality, the guy who can walk away from conflict while being laughed at for it, is the manliest man. This is the ideal man for a good society.
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Very true.

Still, panopticon designs should be the standard.
In the US we call it growing up.
just watch scum (1979), that will reduce a desire to commit crimes which lead to prison
Dnr stoicism is cucked just snap
I see what you are doing. You are taking toxic masculinity and saying it's bad, whilst at the same time subtly ascribing the blame to women. A kind of false flag operation, poorly executed.

Men and women are victims of the same system. The behaviours you describe are the product of women who have been taught that their only survival mechanism in the social dominance hierarchy is to pair up with an aggressive and productive man. That is both false and demeaning to their self-esteem. The men are taught that the only way to attract a woman is to be aggressive, productive, and out-compete the other men. The result is that the men work themselves to death and kill each other, the women fight over the winner (who is traumatized from the behaviours he learned to achieve victory), and nobody is happy.
Originally posted by Vinz Clortho:
I see what you are doing. You are taking toxic masculinity and saying it's bad, whilst at the same time subtly ascribing the blame to women. A kind of false flag operation, poorly executed.

Men and women are victims of the same system. The behaviours you describe are the product of women who have been taught that their only survival mechanism in the social dominance hierarchy is to pair up with an aggressive and productive man. That is both false and demeaning to their self-esteem. The men are taught that the only way to attract a woman is to be aggressive, productive, and out-compete the other men. The result is that the men work themselves to death and kill each other, the women fight over the winner (who is traumatized from the behaviours he learned to achieve victory), and nobody is happy.

There is a blame to be put on women for it, it's 2025 now and it's time they stop fawning over the barbarian. I don't care if that offends some people.
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Originally posted by Robot11024:

I don't care if that offends some people

Clearly
Originally posted by Vinz Clortho:
Originally posted by Robot11024:

I don't care if that offends some people

Clearly

After fully reading your comment, I can somewhat agree with you. A lot of women think the way they do because our governments and teaching institutions failed them.

Ideally, our schools should be teaching boys and girls that a man is someone as described in this post, to prevent the girls perceiving non-conflict boys as wimps/weak, etc.
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Originally posted by salamander:
just watch scum (1979), that will reduce a desire to commit crimes which lead to prison

This wouldn't solve the issue of girls perceiving non-conflict boys as wimps, it would just create the problem we now have.
stoicism for prisoners? I thought being a convict means these is no ism that can be socially recognized.
Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:
Very true.

Still, panopticon designs should be the standard.

What's a panopticon
Originally posted by salamander:
just watch scum (1979), that will reduce a desire to commit crimes which lead to prison
10/10 movie
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