Care to explain anything specific? And who will petition for instead?

Seeing so many conservative people lose favor for him made me appreciate that a lot of conservative people think quite rationally with only a few of them being mindless cultists

I voted for 'Donald Duck' but they gave it to 'Trump' instead.

Originally posted by Aleksas:

Seeing so many conservative people lose favor for him made me appreciate that a lot of conservative people think quite rationally with only a few of them being mindless cultists

Exactly. We have ruled out the cultists from people who utilize rational critical thinking skills. Sad so many people still blindly support this man like he's the second coming. Trump is a total sellout.

idont think he was ever anybody's ideal choice

Just the least ♥♥♥♥♥♥ one

I'm not too happy with Trump's performance this term either. It is what it is. We're just going to get worse and worse leaders every election cycle.

Originally posted by 🆂🅾🅻🅸🅳🆄🆂 🆂🅽🅰🅺🅴:

Originally posted by Aleksas:

Seeing so many conservative people lose favor for him made me appreciate that a lot of conservative people think quite rationally with only a few of them being mindless cultists

Exactly. We have ruled out the cultists from people who utilize rational critical thinking skills. Sad so many people still blindly support this man like he's the second coming. Trump is a total sellout.

I dont blindly support him, I support him because of the work he's done. He's shown excellent use of our economic power in negotiations, the necessary hard line stance against immigration needed to take on sanctuary cities which openly aid in hiding criminals and following the unstable mass influx of the prior administration, I find his economic goals to be reliable, a great focus on businesses large and small and a removal of heavy subsidy spending for more broad tax cuts which dont favor one industry over the other.

Now, do we wanna just keep insulting eachothers imaginary friends or actually answer, what, specifically caused you to come to this conclusion. What did he do that's so selfish.

And lets say you disagree with me, how does the first one, which you consider the most important, undermine all the other great things he's done that you voted for in the first place

Originally posted by 🆂🅾🅻🅸🅳🆄🆂 🆂🅽🅰🅺🅴:

I supported and voted for Trump 3 elections in a row but these latest things, I'm out. I can't stand dems or leftists but this is the last straw. Trump sucks. He's not the answer. My boomer parents who voted for Trump too feel the same way. Anyone who is SANE, feels the same way. If you support Trump at this point, you really are in a cult. This man does not care about anyone but himself.

I noticed it was time to stop putting any esteem at all in Trump's gov't when all that 'Israel First' mockery within congress was going on, despite the ongoing, Likud-inspired campaign of punitive ethnic cleansing of both the West Bank and Gaza.

This new nonsense with the Epstein affair reinforces this.

Originally posted by Unmade:

Originally posted by 🆂🅾🅻🅸🅳🆄🆂 🆂🅽🅰🅺🅴:

I supported and voted for Trump 3 elections in a row but these latest things, I'm out. I can't stand dems or leftists but this is the last straw. Trump sucks. He's not the answer. My boomer parents who voted for Trump too feel the same way. Anyone who is SANE, feels the same way. If you support Trump at this point, you really are in a cult. This man does not care about anyone but himself.

I noticed it was time to stop putting any esteem at all in Trump's gov't when all that 'Israel First' mockery within congress was going on, despite the ongoing, Likud-inspired campaign of punitive ethnic cleansing of both the West Bank and Gaza.

This new nonsense with the Epstein affair reinforces this.

Isreal is legally speaking our ally, not just some useful thing like Ukraine but a formal military ally. You dont have to like Isreal but support for it has some basis. I just don't see what's suppose to be selfish in that. This seems like you just wanna be pro palistine and jump ship on single issue.

As for Epstein, oh for the, there is an entire thead on this from jsut yesterday, if you wanna discuss that then go there. I'm not gonna pretend Pam is handling it well but right now we dont even know if the suppose list is actually a list of island hoppers or just his public contact list. In it common practice for initial investigation of someone to start by collecting a listing of the suspects every personal contact for later cross-referencing. And keep in mind, ANY name released for any reason -will- draw a lynch mob. Any president will have to be extremely careful, let alone the man whose every, single, decision, blights a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawsuit from a democrat appointed judge or governer/mayor.

I'd rather everyone involved in Epstein Island get away with it but we get lasting border security and the correct interpretation of the 14th amendment than the lid getting blown off the Epstein affair but not getting those things. Justice for strangers matters a certain amount, but things that negatively impact me personally matter more.

Originally posted by hehexd:

Yes ignore left/right politics and focus on yourself and your community

Community process doesn't filter up, so you're essentially voiding control over your community doing this.

You'd probably get more done simply discarding your actual morals, entering one party or the other, and using it to benefit your community and only your community.

Same effect.

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

I'd rather everyone involved in Epstein Island get away with it but we get lasting border security and the correct interpretation of the 14th amendment than the lid getting blown off the Epstein affair but not getting those things. Justice for strangers matters a certain amount, but things that negatively impact me personally matter more.

unironically....yes. Let the underground monsters devour one-another in an ever constant hell of blackmail, fear, and murder. I will focus on the people literally calling for child brothels in the public market and the people stealing from landowners to build apartment complex for their pet populations(look up L.A. mayor buying out the palisades land). so long as we make it clear to the underground that if they try to escvape it with an easy life, they're gonna need witness protection and start their lives from scratch because it's the only way we're showing mercy

Originally posted by hehexd:

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

I'd rather everyone involved in Epstein Island get away with it but we get lasting border security and the correct interpretation of the 14th amendment than the lid getting blown off the Epstein affair but not getting those things. Justice for strangers matters a certain amount, but things that negatively impact me personally matter more.

All you said there was youre fine with kids getting touched if it means you see less migrants at the welfare office and walmart. In an ideal world you wouldnt exist, but better yet change that disgusting mindset. Youre an offence to america

No, he said that there's more important things like actual radical insurrections, Chazz, socialist buyouts of private land(L.A Palisides and NYC rent freezes/racial property tax altering) and mass scale illegal immigration destabilizing local and national economic systems then trying to play lynch mob for monsters underground devouring one-another. It's called prioritizing. I think I'd rather deal with the post-modernist ideology literally calling for sexual surgeries on children or child brothers before I worry about a dead mans friends.

Ok let's just forget everything after 1776, crash the economy like (D) wants and just re-join the EU

If you look at whats happening in the UK and Germany right now, that is why Trump was voted in as #47.

Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

I'd rather everyone involved in Epstein Island get away with it but we get lasting border security and the correct interpretation of the 14th amendment than the lid getting blown off the Epstein affair but not getting those things. Justice for strangers matters a certain amount, but things that negatively impact me personally matter more.

unironically....yes. Let the underground monsters devour one-another in an ever constant hell of blackmail, fear, and murder. I will focus on the people literally calling for child brothels in the public market and the people stealing from landowners to build apartment complex for their pet populations(look up L.A. mayor buying out the palisades land). so long as we make it clear to the underground that if they try to escvape it with an easy life, they're gonna need witness protection and start their lives from scratch because it's the only way we're showing mercy

Originally posted by hehexd:

All you said there was youre fine with kids getting touched if it means you see less migrants at the welfare office and walmart. In an ideal world you wouldnt exist, but better yet change that disgusting mindset. Youre an offence to america

No, he said that there's more important things like actual radical insurrections, Chazz, socialist buyouts of private land(L.A Palisides and NYC rent freezes/racial property tax altering) and mass scale illegal immigration destabilizing local and national economic systems then trying to play lynch mob for monsters underground devouring one-another. It's called prioritizing. I think I'd rather deal with the post-modernist ideology literally calling for sexual surgeries on children or child brothers before I worry about a dead mans friends.

"Hypothetical sexual abuse towards children vs real, confirmed sexual abuse towards children? Sorry, but I'll take the hypothetical sexual abuse towards children"

Also, I do wonder if this situation is actually the last straw for both parties, in a genuine sense, not a "MAGA vs RINO" sense