People born in America are native Americans. People born in the UK and native to UK. Even the American Indian didn't just spring out of the ground and had to migrate to this area and the Indians fought other tribes in very bloody wars taking lands, slaves and somethings outright genociding other tribes.

Yeah but can indigenous north american white people do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DFKIllyMOY

Originally posted by Cee:

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

Are you sure about that?

Yes. One of the people in the video said he was a fascist, said he wanted trump to not adhere to the constitution. Thats a loser baby

So people who dont adhere to the Constitution are losers? Anyone who supports gun control/gun laws are losers? Anyone who supports hate-speech laws are losers?

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

People born in America are native Americans. People born in the UK and native to UK. Even the American Indian didn't just spring out of the ground and had to migrate to this area and the Indians fought other tribes in very bloody wars taking lands, slaves and somethings outright genociding other tribes.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/12/601910081412555909

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

This stuff is just common knowledge.

I'm surprised you don't know it. However we all have our information blind-spots.

Originally posted by Not Big Surprise:

alright
if it's common knowledge, then surely you can tell me where this knowledge came from

Originally posted by Stingray_tm:

So you don't have sources to back up your claims.

So that's a "No" then?

"They raped so we can rape!"

You can try to sidestep colonialism, but you won't be able to do it effectively

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

Anyone who supports hate-speech laws are losers?

I dont think you should call someone the n word

Originally posted by Cee:

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

Anyone who supports hate-speech laws are losers?

I dont think you should call someone the n word

Anarchy solves so much of this bs

I think you should be free to, but I think people should also be free to jump you for doing so

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Cee:

I dont think you should call someone the n word

I think you should be free to, but I think people should also be free to jump you for doing so

That's fair

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

People born in America are native Americans. People born in the UK and native to UK. Even the American Indian didn't just spring out of the ground and had to migrate to this area and the Indians fought other tribes in very bloody wars taking lands, slaves and somethings outright genociding other tribes.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/12/601910081412555909

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

So that's a "No" then?

"They raped so we can rape!"

You can try to sidestep colonialism, but you won't be able to do it effectively

No need to side-step colonialism, heck I think it should be embraced especially since that America became the nation it did because some tribes allied with us, and some tribes warred with us. So remember the Indians played a very large part on the colonialization.

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/12/601910081412555909



"They raped so we can rape!"

You can try to sidestep colonialism, but you won't be able to do it effectively

No need to side-step colonialism, heck I think it should be embraced especially since that America became the nation it did because some tribes allied with us, and some tribes warred with us. So remember the Indians played a very large part on the colonialization.

You've wasted a lot of time and a lot of words to just confirm that you hold the views of a largely uneducated hillbilly

Your defence of colonialism is that some Indigenous tribes tried to survive by forming alliances? That’s like justifying a mugging because one of the victims tried to negotiate

Colonialism isn’t a team sport -- it’s systemic domination. Indigenous people didn’t “play a large part” in colonisation; they were subjected to it, fought it, and are still dealing with the consequences. Romanticising it like it was some joint venture is historically lazy and morally bankrupt

anything right of Bill Marr is far right to a Democrat.
not interested in watching a trash vid, thanks

Originally posted by SympliKrazi:

anything right of Bill Marr is far right to a Democrat.
not interested in watching a trash vid, thanks

Not true, and a narrow-sighted extremist outlook on binary politics

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/12/4767710913123584074/

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

No need to side-step colonialism, heck I think it should be embraced especially since that America became the nation it did because some tribes allied with us, and some tribes warred with us. So remember the Indians played a very large part on the colonialization.

You've wasted a lot of time and a lot of words to just confirm that you hold the views of a largely uneducated hillbilly

Your defence of colonialism is that some Indigenous tribes tried to survive by forming alliances? That’s like justifying a mugging because one of the victims tried to negotiate

Colonialism isn’t a team sport -- it’s systemic domination. Indigenous people didn’t “play a large part” in colonisation; they were subjected to it, fought it, and are still dealing with the consequences. Romanticising it like it was some joint venture is historically lazy and morally bankrupt

Sorry bro, but lets not fantasize about woke history, lets talk about reality.

The tribes that allied with the US weren't victims bullied into being our friends, often we warred with tribes that were their enemies. Remember the tribes were brutal long before settlers arrived in America. There was slavery, genocide and torture.

And some of those tribes played a HUGE part in colonizing and without their help the US Armies likely would have lost. Now sure there were some tribes who warred against the United States.

For instance do you know the historical significance of these 5 tribes? Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek (also known as Muscogee), and Seminole

Those tribes all made a very large profit off slavery, and joined the Confederacy to keep slavery alive.

Those were also the tribes that mainly consisted of the Indians from Trial of Tears.

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

You've wasted a lot of time and a lot of words to just confirm that you hold the views of a largely uneducated hillbilly

Your defence of colonialism is that some Indigenous tribes tried to survive by forming alliances? That’s like justifying a mugging because one of the victims tried to negotiate

Colonialism isn’t a team sport -- it’s systemic domination. Indigenous people didn’t “play a large part” in colonisation; they were subjected to it, fought it, and are still dealing with the consequences. Romanticising it like it was some joint venture is historically lazy and morally bankrupt

Sorry bro, but lets not fantasize about woke history, lets talk about reality.

The tribes that allied with the US weren't victims bullied into being our friends, often we warred with tribes that were their enemies. Remember the tribes were brutal long before settlers arrived in America. There was slavery, genocide and torture.

And some of those tribes played a HUGE part in colonizing and without their help the US Armies likely would have lost. Now sure there were some tribes who warred against the United States.

For instance do you know the historical significance of these 5 tribes? Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek (also known as Muscogee), and Seminole

Those tribes all made a very large profit off slavery, and joined the Confederacy to keep slavery alive.

Those were also the tribes that mainly consisted of the Indians from Trial of Tears.

You're once again mistaking context for justification. Yes, Indigenous societies weren't utopias -- but the existence of conflict or slavery within tribes doesn't somehow excuse the industrial-scale violence, land theft, genocide, and cultural erasure that followed colonisation

The fact that some tribes allied with colonisers isn't proof they "helped colonise" -- it proves they were making impossible choices under existential threat. It’s the equivalent of two people being mugged, and one hands over their wallet while the other resists. That doesn’t mean one of them was “part of the mugging”. That's lazy and fallacious thinking

And yes, the Five Civilised Tribes owned Black slaves and had complex roles in the Civil War -- but they were also forcibly removed from their land via the Trail of Tears. You're cherry-picking facts to build a narrative where colonisers are heroes and Native peoples are either complicit or to blame. You're not telling history, you're spreading propaganda

You're desperately trying to paint colonialism as some sort of co-op between tribes and settlers. It was conquest. And your attempt to repaint that with selective anecdotes is ironic after accusing me of "fantasising about woke history"

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by SympliKrazi:

anything right of Bill Marr is far right to a Democrat.
not interested in watching a trash vid, thanks

Not true, and a narrow-sighted extremist outlook on binary politics

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/12/4767710913123584074/

I agree, just by the title, the vid is going to be narrow sighted.

If you want to take extremes and pit them against each other, that would be funny to see how much they have in common

go with far right vs far left.

If you want to take a progressive, then be so kind use intelligent conservatives of the standard variety, rather than 'far right'.

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:

Sorry bro, but lets not fantasize about woke history, lets talk about reality.

The tribes that allied with the US weren't victims bullied into being our friends, often we warred with tribes that were their enemies. Remember the tribes were brutal long before settlers arrived in America. There was slavery, genocide and torture.

And some of those tribes played a HUGE part in colonizing and without their help the US Armies likely would have lost. Now sure there were some tribes who warred against the United States.

For instance do you know the historical significance of these 5 tribes? Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek (also known as Muscogee), and Seminole

Those tribes all made a very large profit off slavery, and joined the Confederacy to keep slavery alive.

Those were also the tribes that mainly consisted of the Indians from Trial of Tears.

The fact that some tribes allied with colonisers isn't proof they "helped colonise" --

Allying with something means you're helping those folks, but I find the mental gymnastics to be entertaining.