oh these poor team owners are having their arms twisted so hard to revert changes they never wanted.

Originally posted by rabapraba p:

oh these poor team owners are having their arms twisted so hard to revert changes they never wanted.

More like the poor entitled president has nothing better to do. If First Nations find those tags offensive than why does he shove it down their throats?

its just gulf of mexico, thats what everyone will continue to call it. so its fine

Originally posted by salamander:

its just gulf of mexico, thats what everyone will continue to call it. so its fine

No. It's Gulf of America. Get it right please.

Originally posted by salamander:

its just gulf of mexico, thats what everyone will continue to call it. so its fine

Yes but to appease the baby, underneath in brackets is gulf of america. I've never seen such a spectacle how everyone tip toes around him so as to not hurt is feelings while he spews the most vile insults to whomever he chooses.

He's the most annoying president I've ever known.

If people ignored him, he'd probably throw a temper tantrum.

Originally posted by Despiser:

Originally posted by salamander:

its just gulf of mexico, thats what everyone will continue to call it. so its fine

Yes but to appease the baby, underneath in brackets is gulf of america. I've never seen such a spectacle how everyone tip toes around him so as to not hurt is feelings while he spews the most vile insults to whomever he chooses.

Sounds like you are trying really hard to anger people, to the point it's obvious.

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Originally posted by Despiser:

Yes but to appease the baby, underneath in brackets is gulf of america. I've never seen such a spectacle how everyone tip toes around him so as to not hurt is feelings while he spews the most vile insults to whomever he chooses.

Sounds like you are trying really hard to anger people, to the point it's obvious.

Obviously Trump tries really hard to anger people, which I find offensive, maybe because we have First Nations blood in our family. But you are probably ok when he dishes out insults and tries to humiliate others.
Regarding gulf of america, i really don't care if they want to use that name. The rest of the world knows it as gulf of mexico.

Originally posted by Despiser:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Sounds like you are trying really hard to anger people, to the point it's obvious.

Obviously Trump tries really hard to anger people, which I find offensive, maybe because we have First Nations blood in our family. But you are probably ok when he dishes out insults and tries to humiliate others.
Regarding gulf of america, i really don't care if they want to use that name. The rest of the world knows it as gulf of mexico.

Trump likes to troll and it shows it has an effect on people clearly.

Yeah, we've discussed the gulf of america before. He has that legal authority under U.S. law. Plus honestly, it should've been called the Gulf of America in the first place because it's shaped almost as much by the 1,680 miles of U.S. coastline as it is by the 1,743 miles of Mexican coastline.

Similarly, Cleveland Guardian have to revert back to Cleveland Indians, though it's not clear what form of blackmail will be applied here.

Does everything have to be done through extortion? He asked. They said no..Maybe he'll try to buy the team again like he tried in 1983[www.cbssports.com]. Then he could name the team whatever he wants.

I'm not entirely on board with this erasure of ethnicity from American symbolism either. I thought we wanted more representation of the diverse groups and cultures of the U.S.A. in our media, not less.

With that having been said though, meh, looking at the history of team names I'd rather see the team called the Cleveland Naps again. You could have a nice sleepytime mascot, and it can be short for Cleaveland Napoleons while honoring former team player and hall of famer Nap Lajoie.

Looks like the name was changed when he transferred to the Philadelphia Athletics, which is kind of understandable but also a bit petty.

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

the gulf of america before[/url]. He has that legal authority under U.S. law. Plus honestly, it should've been called the Gulf of America in the first place because it's shaped almost as much by the 1,680 miles of U.S. coastline as it is by the 1,743 miles of Mexican coastline.

During the formative years of the US of A, before the conquest of Texas/Cali and the north Mexico, the ratio was skewed on the other "side", with a lot more lands tagged "Mexican" the "Etasunian" around the golf, you know ?

Now, you really gonna rename all and everythings around you every ten years to reflect the "current world" or something ?

Commander in Chief? More like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in Chief.

Originally posted by Voroff:

During the formative years of the US of A, before the conquest of Texas/Cali and the north Mexico, the ratio was skewed on the other "side", with a lot more lands tagged "Mexican" the "Etasunian" around the golf, you know ?

Now, you really gonna rename all and everythings around you every ten years to reflect the "current world" or something ?

Well first, the process is relatively easy. The president just writes up an executive order, signs it, and now all of the sudden California is Commieforna all of the sudden..

Also,1848 is far from 10 years ago, y'know? The modern Turkish republic was only founded in 1923 and now they want people to call them Türkiye, likely in large part because they don't want to be associated with a bird that was named after their nation.

Also as the result of wars, territories change names. That's not particularly abnormal. You could say this is action is just 177 years deferred.

Iran also used to be known as Persia to the rest of the world, but at the simple request of Reza Shah Pahlavi in 1935 nations started to use the name Iran used for itself. Possibly a mistake. I imagine people would think of the nation more fondly if it was still known by the name it was known as historically.

If it were up to me I'd just rather not stir the pot and New York City might still be called New Amsterdam but it's not up to me, at least not to any greater degree than it is up to anybody else.

Plus the rest of the world is still calling it the Gulf of Mexico anyway so there's that.

Nobody takes Gulf of America seriously.

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

Also,1848 is far from 10 years ago, y'know? The modern Turkish republic was only founded in 1923 and now they want people to call them Türkiye, likely in large part because they don't want to be associated with a bird that was named after their nation.
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Iran also used to be known as Persia to the rest of the world, but at the simple request of Reza Shah Pahlavi in 1935 nations started to use the name Iran used for itself. Possibly a mistake. I imagine people would think of the nation more fondly if it was still known by the name it was known as historically.

That's kinda the difference : you take examples of countries that re-named themselves, willingly AND self-determiningly (and forgetting the Birman/Myanmar thingy :p) - to juxtapose the situation of Trump renaming a body of water shared by two countries to stroke his own big ego.

And about the linkiness and quirkiness of names, i always have the best example possible : Germany. Called Deutschland by it's denizens, Allemagne by the frenches, Niemtzy by everything* east of said Germany (at least as far as i know it) .... know to you as Germany. I'm calling them denizens "teutons", as a reference to the teutonic knights and because it's rather close to "tétons", wich is a french .. well, word, please do not bother yourself checking it's meaning. Never had any gripe with any German about that : they are either amused, flattered about the historical reference and the irreverence, or just ignore and move on, as i'm just adding to the pile of "whatever is that anyway" and it's done in good fun. I'm not going around renaming the English Channel just because the British Empire has no more fleet to be talked about.


Anyhow, we are talking about Trump renaming things for the sake of putting his feetsies on the metaphorical table, and how it both (i quote the OP) is "petty vindicativness" and spitting on the natives. Not about how it's easy to do with an executive order ^^'