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right to self determination
if indigenous people in the amazon rainforest in brazil and tribes in the african jungle want to preserve their culture, their way of life and their race
should they be allowed?
can't we just let them be?
who gave us the right to decide what others are or aren't allowed to do?
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WarHeRo 22 Jul @ 10:07am 
its for the common good
What about the United States? Is it against the law to not practice my culture as long as I’m not hurting anyone?
allegedly 22 Jul @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by WarHeRo:
its for the common good
politicians all over and organizations like the un and eu use those words a lot
WarHeRo 22 Jul @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by allegedly:
Originally posted by WarHeRo:
its for the common good
politicians all over and organizations like the un and eu use those words a lot
how else do u expect us to justify our nonsense?
Devious 22 Jul @ 10:23am 
For the most part, yes. But I don't think the right to self-determination trumps everything else, nor am I a moral relativitist. I believe that if significant harm is being done to people within or outside the group, we have a duty to intervene.
allegedly 22 Jul @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
What about the United States? Is it against the law to not practice my culture as long as I’m not hurting anyone?
I guess it depends
if you belong to some asian group and you want to preserve your culture and your race, you might be allowed. You could even have a town with the name of your people.
if you don't belong to an immigrant group, maybe it's not allowed.
let's say you belong to some rural america place and all of you living there are the same and you tell other cultures you want to keep it that way.... I don't know
Everyone can burn in this pathetic earth, we are all controlled by governments, and if there is no government we are controlled by mobs, how pathetic this planet is, We must be reborn in Christ and wait for death to obtain true life and freedom

One obtainable in the after, no wonder so many are tempting to die
allegedly 22 Jul @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Devious:
For the most part, yes. But I don't think the right to self-determination trumps everything else, nor am I a moral relativitist. I believe that if significant harm is being done to people within or outside the group, we have a duty to intervene.
who gave you the right to intervene?
why are you the judge to decide what is harm?
allegedly 22 Jul @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Xx-D4rkn3ssSl4y3r-xX:
Everyone can burn in this pathetic earth, we are all controlled by governments, and if there is no government we are controlled by mobs, how pathetic this planet is, We must be reborn in Christ and wait for death to obtain true life and freedom

One obtainable in the after, no wonder so many are tempting to die
governments are kind of a big organized mob
Originally posted by allegedly:
governments are kind of a big organized mob
spot on
Devious 22 Jul @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by allegedly:
Originally posted by Devious:
For the most part, yes. But I don't think the right to self-determination trumps everything else, nor am I a moral relativitist. I believe that if significant harm is being done to people within or outside the group, we have a duty to intervene.
who gave you the right to intervene?
why are you the judge to decide what is harm?
My moral framework gives me the duty to intervene when possible. In a situation where there is a grave atrocity ongoing, I don't believe the rights of the perpetrator outweigh those of the victim, and that includes self-determination. That's how it's going to be : if you intend to commit horrors against your fellow men, you better be strong enough that no one can stop you.
when the masses get dumber so does the government by electing dumb people
Grendalcat 22 Jul @ 10:40am 
They need to get a flag first.🏳️
allegedly 22 Jul @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by Devious:
Originally posted by allegedly:
who gave you the right to intervene?
why are you the judge to decide what is harm?
My moral framework gives me the duty to intervene when possible. In a situation where there is a grave atrocity ongoing, I don't believe the rights of the perpetrator outweigh those of the victim, and that includes self-determination. That's how it's going to be : if you intend to commit horrors against your fellow men, you better be strong enough that no one can stop you.
not sure about what you mean by grave atrocity.
if a group of indigenous people or tribe were doing atrocities to each other, they wouldn't be together and it wouldn't last
Devious 22 Jul @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by allegedly:
Originally posted by Devious:
My moral framework gives me the duty to intervene when possible. In a situation where there is a grave atrocity ongoing, I don't believe the rights of the perpetrator outweigh those of the victim, and that includes self-determination. That's how it's going to be : if you intend to commit horrors against your fellow men, you better be strong enough that no one can stop you.
not sure about what you mean by grave atrocity.
if a group of indigenous people or tribe were doing atrocities to each other, they wouldn't be together and it wouldn't last

By grave atrocity, I mean mass murder, slavery, torture, mutilation, etc.

Most often, these things are committed by one group against another, but that's not always the case. Female genital mutilation is an example of this.
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