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Illegal immigrants do more crime?
Trump did a prisoner swap last week in which he returned 250 Venezuelan migrants back to their country in exchange for a swap of 10 Americans who were in that nation's prisons.

One of those Americans is an Ax Murder who slit multiple victim's throats. He was serving 30 years in prison for murdering 3 victims.

Not a political prisoner but a convicted killer.

They made it fully clear to Trump during the exchange and Trump agreed to release him back into America.

Marco Rubio (Secretary of State) made the statement: "Every wrongfully detained American in Venezuela is now free and back in our homeland" (and cheered for Trump securing their 'freedom')

Diosdado Cabello (Venezuelan Justice Minister) quote: "We handed over some murderers for you."

https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html

What do you think happens now?
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salamander 23 Jul @ 10:53am 
illegal immigrants do less crime, other than the crime of being illegal itself. because drawing attention to themselves is a one way ticket to deportation, so they tend to keep their noses down.

no idea what happens with this particular event happening in usa right now, not up to date on the latest horrors there at the moment.
Last edited by salamander; 23 Jul @ 10:53am
ICE needs to ramp up its operation. It needs to start escorting 100,000 criminals out of the country per day.
Azza ☠ 23 Jul @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by salamander:
illegal immigrants do less crime, other than the crime of being illegal itself. because drawing attention to themselves is a one way ticket to deportation, so they tend to keep their noses down.

They seem to of removed that little previously known fact from the website, here it is via Web Archives:
https://web.archive.org/web/20241116025331/https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate
Azza ☠ 23 Jul @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by JaX:
ICE needs to ramp up its operation. It needs to start escorting 100,000 criminals out of the country per day.

They are removing US Citizens, the homeless, elderly, and children as well, without due process and breaking the US Constitution while doing so. They then lie about it too, making claims like your elderly family member that had just lost his wallet with the green card and therefore went to get a replacement is dead, when actually deported off to a country they have never been before in their life after living 40 years peacefully in America.
Last edited by Azza ☠; 23 Jul @ 11:06am
Let's drop the act. You just enjoy white people losing their majority. The second they defend their identity you go full brown communist. There's no middle ground with you. Just remember that you picked your side
Azza ☠ 23 Jul @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
Let's drop the act. You just enjoy white people losing their majority. The second they defend their identity you go full brown communist. There's no middle ground with you. Just remember that you picked your side

Considering I am white myself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUeZI4vyagg

However, it does seem that ICE Agents are targeting people based upon their skin colour. They even arrested an US Citizen Marshal and there reason was because he matched the description of an illegal immigrant (the only match was his skin).

I understand there's a side-branch of MAGA, known as MAWA (Making America White Again) that quite a few seem to be following. As a white person, I disagree to this racism and xenophobia.

ps: Trump also seen to be full censorship now and banning even dark satire comedy. The music video above is dark satire and mocking stereotyping, learn to laugh at yourself.
Last edited by Azza ☠; 23 Jul @ 11:15am
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
Let's drop the act. You just enjoy white people losing their majority. The second they defend their identity you go full brown communist. There's no middle ground with you. Just remember that you picked your side

Considering I am white myself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUeZI4vyagg

However, it does seem that ICE Agents are targeting people based upon their skin colour. They even arrested an US Citizen Marshal and there reason was because he matched the description of an illegal immigrant (the only match was his skin).

I understand there's a side-branch of MAGA, known as MAWA (Making America White Again) that quite a few seem to be following. As a white person, I disagree to this racism and xenophobia.

Didn't read. You're an anti white. There's no peace between us. Enjoy never feeling safe again, I guess. White liberal race traitors are often the first victims of their own policy.
Azza ☠ 23 Jul @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:

Considering I am white myself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUeZI4vyagg

However, it does seem that ICE Agents are targeting people based upon their skin colour. They even arrested an US Citizen Marshal and there reason was because he matched the description of an illegal immigrant (the only match was his skin).

I understand there's a side-branch of MAGA, known as MAWA (Making America White Again) that quite a few seem to be following. As a white person, I disagree to this racism and xenophobia.

Didn't read. You're an anti white. There's no peace between us. Enjoy never feeling safe again, I guess. White liberal race traitors are often the first victims of their own policy.

Your logic does not register with me.

You claim I'm anti-white and haven't said anything at all against white people, but rather just supported other races? It's called having empathy towards others, look it up someday. Trump and ICE clearly lack it and so does anyone that supports those Gestapo's actions.
Last edited by Azza ☠; 23 Jul @ 11:17am
salamander 23 Jul @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
White liberal race traitors are often the first victims of their own policy.

race traitors? full mask off, huh? thats a shame.
Dom 23 Jul @ 11:19am 
Despite the hate and scapegoating that is so common in US politics, immigrants are still, to this date, less likely to commit crimes than the US-born.

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find

CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank based on individual freedoms and free market capitalism (not exactly the most left-leaning source out there) found that undocumented immigrants had a criminal conviction rate of 37.1% lower than native-born.

Several studies exist where the same results are found and conclusions are drawn; immigrants (both documented and undocumented) commit crimes at lower rates.
Last edited by Dom; 23 Jul @ 11:20am
Originally posted by salamander:
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
White liberal race traitors are often the first victims of their own policy.

race traitors? full mask off, huh? thats a shame.

You first. Go live with them if you love them so much. You won't and Azza are race traitor hypocrites. You flood areas of the US with infinite "immigrants" then flee to different areas. I've seen it time and time again. You're fooling no one.
Warlock 23 Jul @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Trump did a prisoner swap last week in which he returned 250 Venezuelan migrants back to their country in exchange for a swap of 10 Americans who were in that nation's prisons.

One of those Americans is an Ax Murder who slit multiple victim's throats. He was serving 30 years in prison for murdering 3 victims.

Not a political prisoner but a convicted killer.

They made it fully clear to Trump during the exchange and Trump agreed to release him back into America.

Marco Rubio (Secretary of State) made the statement: "Every wrongfully detained American in Venezuela is now free and back in our homeland" (and cheered for Trump securing their 'freedom')

Diosdado Cabello (Venezuelan Justice Minister) quote: "We handed over some murderers for you."

https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html

What do you think happens now?

250 migrants on 10. What the hell, this is extremely generous towards Venezuela. Also didn't the said Venezuelan migrants flee their country due to the dictatorship, so the US sent them back to the country that suppressed elections, had fought protesters, and their dictator is not going away? This administration cannot conduct diplomacy.
salamander 23 Jul @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
Originally posted by salamander:

race traitors? full mask off, huh? thats a shame.

You first. Go live with them if you love them so much. You won't and Azza are race traitor hypocrites. You flood areas of the US with infinite "immigrants" then flee to different areas. I've seen it time and time again. You're fooling no one.

i do not live in yankytown, mate. few thousand km east.
Last edited by salamander; 23 Jul @ 11:23am
Azza ☠ 23 Jul @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Pocket Change:
Originally posted by salamander:

race traitors? full mask off, huh? thats a shame.

You first. Go live with them if you love them so much. You won't and Azza are race traitor hypocrites. You flood areas of the US with infinite "immigrants" then flee to different areas. I've seen it time and time again. You're fooling no one.

At least I'm not like Trump, claiming what if farmers keep the illegals as non-citizens for work purposes under their ownership (aka slaves).

You could of address the US business owners paying illegals to work for dirt cheap, for jobs that the average American citizen doesn't care to do.

Since ICE, your food harvesting went to almost zero and just sits there rotting away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedEtJaVSTU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LsrJWmPvZnY

The real issue is the definition of what Trump/ICE claims an illegal immigrant to be has been burred too. According to Trump, 2 out of 3 of his own wives would be illegals to deport along with all his children (US Citizenship birthright). Ditto with Elon Musk, who he allowed to run your entire country temporary under DOGE due to paying millions for him to win the rigged US Election (2024), etc.

Hell, Trump has even gone as far to claim he wants to deports those he just dislikes, such as Rosie O'Donnell...

Trump seem to really, really have a hatred for all comedians? Which is odd, because he's one himself.
Last edited by Azza ☠; 23 Jul @ 11:30am
Immortalis 23 Jul @ 11:25am 
Reading the article we discover that 9 out of 10 american citizens were wrongfully arrested and detained by Venezuela's dictatorship for terrible crimes such as "kite surfing in the border area with Colombia".

Regarding the inclusion of Ortiz (the tenth men and the convicted killer) in the group, his ex-wife has commented that "There is a well-founded suspicion that the man’s lawyer in Venezuela intentionally provided false information by not presenting him as a convicted murderer, but as a political prisoner or even a U.S. spy, with the aim of including him in the prisoner exchange".


No matter how you try to paint it, this is a huge victory for the USA.
Particularly as the cost of the exchange consisted of sending home some illegal immigrants who had already been removed from the USA.

Sure, if Ortiz's lawyer and/or the Venezuelan authorities willingly misrepresented the situation there should be consequences.
But nowhere in the article does anyone state that "they clearly informed Trump (or the US government) that Ortiz was a murderer".
In fact, that statement was given by the Venezuelan Justice Minister to the Venezuelans that had been removed from the USA (and not to Trump) when they landed home.
Then again, the ability to read a simple article is notoriously not required in your line of work at the "we must bash anything Trump does" company.


And yes, illegals do commit crimes at a much higher rate than citizens.
Every single illegal is a criminal because they entered the country by breaking the law and that means 100% of them commited at least a crime.

And once again, deportation is not a criminal case, it falls squarely under the administrative side of things as the Supreme Court stated repeatedly.
Which means that due process per the Constitution doesn't require an actual trial in front of the court but can be (and is) covered by filling out a simple module.
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