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LeBeef 25 Jul @ 9:41pm
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Collective Shout Must Be Stopped
We need an alternative payment method for steam games. I do not want to continue to use Visa or Mastercard for any future purpose here. Who TF do they think they are??! dictating what content I can enjoy or consume. This is 1984 type Sh1t

STEAM WE NEED A NEW WAY TO PAY. HELP THE COMMUNITY
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temps 25 Jul @ 9:44pm 
We could stop buying stuff on Steam with credit cards, and buy ourselves Steam gift cards at Gamestop with cash or checks instead, then use those gift cards to buy the games we want on Steam.

Use of VISA/Mastercard is just for convenience, really. And boycotting them -- or at least not using them for our game purchases on Steam... is a pretty easy way to protest.

Since VISA/Mastercard charge a "swipe fee" each time their cards are used to buy things in-store or online, when we do this protest it would actually cost VISA/Mastercard money in lost swipe fees.
Last edited by temps; 25 Jul @ 9:58pm
Why is it that when you get rid of one, another pops up? Last year we were calling these people Sweet Baby Inc. Which I took great offense to because that's my kitten's name.
Australians were a mistake.
Tsumugi 25 Jul @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by temps:
We could stop buying stuff on Steam with credit cards, and buy ourselves Steam gift cards at Gamestop with cash or checks instead, then use those gift cards to buy the games we want on Steam.

Use of VISA/Mastercard is just for convenience, really. And boycotting them -- or at least not using them for our game purchases on Steam... is a pretty easy way to protest.
You can't buy things on Steam that have been outright ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ removed from sale though.
Originally posted by Tsumugi:
Originally posted by temps:
We could stop buying stuff on Steam with credit cards, and buy ourselves Steam gift cards at Gamestop with cash or checks instead, then use those gift cards to buy the games we want on Steam.

Use of VISA/Mastercard is just for convenience, really. And boycotting them -- or at least not using them for our game purchases on Steam... is a pretty easy way to protest.
You can't buy things on Steam that have been outright ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ removed from sale though.
Is this gonna apply to the UK? You know since they got the Stop Killing Games Initiative? That would be counter.
temps 25 Jul @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Tsumugi:
Originally posted by temps:
We could stop buying stuff on Steam with credit cards, and buy ourselves Steam gift cards at Gamestop with cash or checks instead, then use those gift cards to buy the games we want on Steam.

Use of VISA/Mastercard is just for convenience, really. And boycotting them -- or at least not using them for our game purchases on Steam... is a pretty easy way to protest.
You can't buy things on Steam that have been outright ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ removed from sale though.

The point of the protest is to show you're upset with VISA/Mastercard/payment processor censorship, not to solve the problem.

Although if VISA/Mastercard lose a lot of money from people not buying games on Steam using their cards anymore, it might solve the problem by making executives at those companies change their decision to censor Steam when they get upset about losing money.
Final Kat 25 Jul @ 10:04pm 
Why not just play their own game but better? If Collective Should keeps bombarding platforms with endless calls or emails, then why not give them even more calls or emails to let them know how you feel? If Collective Should wants people to feel ashamed for playing adult-oriented games, then why not let them know how you feel about them defending the film Cuties?
Fake 25 Jul @ 10:06pm 
Just get them a lifetime supply of cats and box wine. Problem solved.
Originally posted by Punished Rusty Shackleford:
Australians were a mistake.
We need an Operation British IRL
temps 25 Jul @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Final Kat:
Why not just play their own game but better? If Collective Should keeps bombarding platforms with endless calls or emails, then why not give them even more calls or emails to let them know how you feel? If Collective Should wants people to feel ashamed for playing adult-oriented games, then why not let them know how you feel about them defending the film Cuties?

Actions speak louder than words, and if VISA/Mastercard notice a substantial number of gamers are no longer using their credit cards to buy things on Steam in protest of credit card censorship, they will pay attention because they don't want to lose money.
ZZZZZ 25 Jul @ 10:18pm 
Originally posted by temps:
Originally posted by Final Kat:
Why not just play their own game but better? If Collective Should keeps bombarding platforms with endless calls or emails, then why not give them even more calls or emails to let them know how you feel? If Collective Should wants people to feel ashamed for playing adult-oriented games, then why not let them know how you feel about them defending the film Cuties?

Actions speak louder than words, and if VISA/Mastercard notice a substantial number of gamers are no longer using their credit cards to buy things on Steam in protest of credit card censorship, they will pay attention because they don't want to lose money.
they dont care about money, the censorship did already cost them money while getting them nothing in return
temps 25 Jul @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by ZZZZZ:
Originally posted by temps:

Actions speak louder than words, and if VISA/Mastercard notice a substantial number of gamers are no longer using their credit cards to buy things on Steam in protest of credit card censorship, they will pay attention because they don't want to lose money.
they dont care about money, the censorship did already cost them money while getting them nothing in return

Well then what do you think they care about?
Originally posted by Wild Child:
Why is it that when you get rid of one, another pops up? Last year we were calling these people Sweet Baby Inc. Which I took great offense to because that's my kitten's name.
That organization never did anything like this, as far as I'm aware.

Originally posted by Tsumugi:
Originally posted by temps:
We could stop buying stuff on Steam with credit cards, and buy ourselves Steam gift cards at Gamestop with cash or checks instead, then use those gift cards to buy the games we want on Steam.

Use of VISA/Mastercard is just for convenience, really. And boycotting them -- or at least not using them for our game purchases on Steam... is a pretty easy way to protest.
You can't buy things on Steam that have been outright ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ removed from sale though.
Valve wouldn't bend to payment processors like Visa and Mastercard if we were using Steam wallet codes instead. As far as I'm aware, FastPay (iirc, that's the company that manages Steam wallet code cards) doesn't do this sort of thing.

Originally posted by ZZZZZ:
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they dont care about money, the censorship did already cost them money while getting them nothing in return
Yeah. It's about control.
If people want the cards to not have this kind of power then they need to permanently switch to wallet codes and hope that enough other people join them (which will take a long time) or get legislation passed about non-discriminatory processing of payments. ...it's also kind of extortion what the payment companies are doing right now - if anything about that were actually enforced then things might be better too.

It's a little bit funny that they want to take down rape games while having a similar mindset to that of a rapist.
well, maybe steam will start accepting crypto?

decentralized trade, but a lot more chances for scammerinos... hmm.

what else.

maybe just the devs that have hitlisted games just rename the game's vendor title? :D

Originally posted by Wild Child:
Why is it that when you get rid of one, another pops up? Last year we were calling these people Sweet Baby Inc. Which I took great offense to because that's my kitten's name.

good call.

i think these people just hate themselves, and they want others to suffer.
Lime 25 Jul @ 10:46pm 
I think it would be funny if millions of people started donating to collective shout and they all charge back just to piss off the credit card companies
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