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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:20pm
How do we know that all ethnicities have the same average capacity for intelligence?
The belief that all geographically separated groups of people are functionally interchangeable seems to be a fundamental belief upon which modern Western values are built.

But is there any merit to it? Has the idea ever been scientifically substantiated.
If you replaced Koreans with Bantu Africans or aboriginals, would their society be just as advanced?
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Dwerklesberry 26 Jul @ 9:22pm 
Neocreationism is fun!
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tom red band 26 Jul @ 9:23pm 
Are you asking somebody to Google this for you?
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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by tom red band:
Are you asking somebody to Google this for you?

If it was as simple as that, I wouldn't be here.
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Final Kat 26 Jul @ 9:25pm 
Ethnicity isn't tied to intelligence. Just racist ragebait.
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tallgeese 26 Jul @ 9:26pm 
Originally posted by kekm8:
Originally posted by tom red band:
Are you asking somebody to Google this for you?

If it was as simple as that, I wouldn't be here.
It is as simple as that
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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by Final Kat:
Ethnicity isn't tied to intelligence. Just racist ragebait.

I'm not sure what you mean by "tied to". But, as far as average IQ, there is a correlation.
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Acetyl 26 Jul @ 9:29pm 
We're obviously not all the same. Children have to be actively brainwashed and shamed to pretend to not see it. Ironically this creates racism.
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Final Kat 26 Jul @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by kekm8:
Originally posted by Final Kat:
Ethnicity isn't tied to intelligence. Just racist ragebait.

I'm not sure what you mean by "tied to". But, as far as average IQ, there is a correlation.
IQ tests are outdated, dude. That's like using a polygraph to test for lies.
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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:31pm 
Originally posted by tallgeese:
Originally posted by kekm8:

If it was as simple as that, I wouldn't be here.
It is as simple as that

No it's not. When I google "how do we know that all ethnicities have the same average capacity for intellignce" the first result is the wiki page for Race and Intelligence. I'm not asking about race. Ethnicities are more granular. For example, Bantus, Khosians, and Melonesians would all be considered "Black" by race while being very different ethnicities. The second result is a reddit thread that devolves into unintelligible ****-flinging and so on.
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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by Final Kat:
Originally posted by kekm8:

I'm not sure what you mean by "tied to". But, as far as average IQ, there is a correlation.
IQ tests are outdated, dude. That's like using a polygraph to test for lies.

Then how would you measure intelligence. You just said that ethnicity isn't tied to intelligence. I assume you have some way of measuring and verifying this (outside of IQ). If what you're saying is correct, then we would expect the distribution of intelligence to be random and totally uncorrelated to ethnicity.
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tom red band 26 Jul @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by kekm8:
Originally posted by tallgeese:
It is as simple as that

No it's not. When I google "how do we know that all ethnicities have the same average capacity for intellignce" the first result is the wiki page for Race and Intelligence. I'm not asking about race. Ethnicities are more granular. For example, Bantus, Khosians, and Melonesians would all be considered "Black" by race while being very different ethnicities. The second result is a reddit thread that devolves into unintelligible ****-flinging and so on.
So yes. You're asking somebody to Google it for you. Because you don't know how to properly prompt a Google search to get the results you're looking for.
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tallgeese 26 Jul @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by kekm8:
Originally posted by tallgeese:
It is as simple as that

No it's not. When I google "how do we know that all ethnicities have the same average capacity for intellignce" the first result is the wiki page for Race and Intelligence. I'm not asking about race. Ethnicities are more granular. For example, Bantus, Khosians, and Melonesians would all be considered "Black" by race while being very different ethnicities. The second result is a reddit thread that devolves into unintelligible ****-flinging and so on.
You should probably read that wiki page on it.
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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by tom red band:
Originally posted by kekm8:

No it's not. When I google "how do we know that all ethnicities have the same average capacity for intellignce" the first result is the wiki page for Race and Intelligence. I'm not asking about race. Ethnicities are more granular. For example, Bantus, Khosians, and Melonesians would all be considered "Black" by race while being very different ethnicities. The second result is a reddit thread that devolves into unintelligible ****-flinging and so on.
So yes. You're asking somebody to Google it for you. Because you don't know how to properly prompt a Google search to get the results you're looking for.

If I changed the prompt, then I would be asking a different question.
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kekm8 26 Jul @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by tallgeese:
Originally posted by kekm8:

No it's not. When I google "how do we know that all ethnicities have the same average capacity for intellignce" the first result is the wiki page for Race and Intelligence. I'm not asking about race. Ethnicities are more granular. For example, Bantus, Khosians, and Melonesians would all be considered "Black" by race while being very different ethnicities. The second result is a reddit thread that devolves into unintelligible ****-flinging and so on.
You should probably read that wiki page on it.

I'm not asking about race, though. The wiki page is going to say that both "race" and "intelligence" are flawed concepts. Race is a flawed concept, which is why I'm not interested in it.
But you would have to be pretty intellectually dishonest or braindead to claim that intelligence isn't real.
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Devious 26 Jul @ 9:47pm 
They probably do, but don't know for sure. We do know that a big part of intelligence is acquired and developed during childhood. Malnutrition/nutritional deficits, illnesses, physical and psychological trauma and lack of intellectual stimulation in children have a tremendous impact on average adult IQ.

But no one knows whether there are also innate IQ disparities between ethnicities. It's possible, but they're likely quite small if they exist at all.

There's not a lot of research being done on the topic, for obvious reasons. Say you've found a genetic component to intelligence that is not equally distributed among populations. If you get anything wrong (and peer-review is gonna be extra harsh), your reputation as a scientist is in tatters and you've defamed potentially billions of people. If you're right, then you've just legitimized racism in the eyes of the public, even though the difference you found is almost certainly < 5 IQ points, which is totally useless for making judgements of individuals.
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