Buddists do.

"Nirvana" is when they escape the eternal hell which is known as the "forever rebirth cycle".

Peace and enlightment is when it ends.

Final death.

Fascinating.

not really, but if it does

I have plans, lots and lots of plans, I want to make so many pay, god most of all.

Originally posted by Long Niar™:

Buddists do.

i agree

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Long Niar™:

Buddists do.

i agree

Correct.

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Long Niar™:

Buddists do.

i agree

that's a continuation of the same life. book-ending it with death is a social affectation.

Originally posted by Long Niar™:

Final death.

Jainist/Hindu affectation not present in the original philosophies.

both Bud and the Tantric school roundly reject this idea, though Bud did use the concept of finality in death to illustrate his points and was generally more caring and attentive to the needs of his flock. such as their (ie people's) tendency to reject new phenomena if it doesn't resemble the ideas they're used to. Ch'an studies this process in great detail and discusses it a lot, the series of steps traditional Bud-lineage Buddhism tends to take to prepare people for being told the truth. (steps the Pure Land school sought to codify, which Ch'an then sought to re-explain as a continuation of the pattern, both eventually inserting their own ideas and being replaced by other schools of thought after coming to resemble one another via popularity of practice, then zen disassociated and harvested the ideas back out of as a partial rejection of the structured method, which then spawned its own varieties of the same basic schools of thought regarding how to explain.)

compare this to the Vajric method of simply throwing the truth at their heads over and over, no matter how insane this makes people feel. no matter how many mental bruises or fractures they develop.

life isn't going to stop throwing the vajra at you; why should your teacher...?

I'd like to say I used this as a mystical affectation to get people to engage with the ideas more, but realistically I just got so frustrated I gave up and threw the facts at them over and over. and they responded by mystifying me, per usual. extremely frustrating.

Originally posted by rabapraba p:

Originally posted by Ghost:

i agree

that's a continuation of the same life. book-ending it with death is a social affectation.

Originally posted by Long Niar™:

Final death.

Jainist/Hindu affectation not present in the original philosophies.

both Bud and the Tantric school roundly reject this idea, though Bud did use the concept of finality in death to illustrate his points and was generally more caring and attentive to the needs of his flock. such as their (ie people's) tendency to reject new phenomena if it doesn't resemble the ideas they're used to. Ch'an studies this process in great detail and discusses it a lot, the series of steps traditional Bud-lineage Buddhism tends to take to prepare people for being told the truth.

compare this to the Vajric method of simply throwing the truth at their heads over and over, no matter how insane this makes people feel. no matter how many mental bruises or fractures they develop.

life isn't going to stop throwing the vajra at you; why should your teacher...?

I'd like to say I used this as a mystical affectation to get people to engage with the ideas more, but realistically I just got so frustrated I gave up and threw the facts at them over and over. and they responded by mystifying me, per usual. extremely frustrating.

correct

if there’s a next life I’m hopin’ it’s just as wild and twice as fun

Originally posted by Ghost:

Do you believe next life/another life exists?

I hope not.

imagine being stuck in your one life for eternity, Having to re live everything over and over again.

We only get one

Dear god, am I gonna have to put up with more ♥♥♥♥ than this?!?!?!