Is it any better than redrawing districts so that black people are only a minority vote in their district?

Originally posted by St✩rlight:

Is it any better than redrawing districts so that black people are only a minority vote in their district?

I would think not. Redrawing districts so that one race is a minority seems to be same thing, no matter what race it is.

It in fact does breach the constituttion and the democrats challenged the distract breakdown when they thought it would mean less black congressman. Now they are fighting it to keep it tooth and nail...because they think it means less black congressman.

I swear to god I'm not being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or strawmanning this. They are literally going into congress and saying this outright, their major leadership and small time members. And look into what Gavin is trying to do in California, its even worse than the original ♥♥♥♥ that was done in Texas!

A govt changing the proportion of voters in a district to force a desired outcome is total corruption of intention of balanced fair govt

Or are you for racially segregated suburbs, pales only allowed to live in an area, or obly dark skin allowed to buy houses in suburb area

Gerrymandering has always been an issue in the US; like Republicans love to draw maps in a way that guarantees their votes.

This is the result of two things -- one is the broken election system in the US where the electorate is split into districts, and each district gets reduced to a single "winner takes all" vote. The second problem is that these districts are not set in stone, so they get redrawn whenever the ruling party needs to make sure they stay the ruling party.

In contrast, around here, every vote counts; voting "districts" are purely an administrative thing. If you're the only one voting for a party in your district, that party still gets your vote counted. So, changing voting districts has no effect on the outcome of any election whatsoever; the only visible effect of districts is the actual place where you go to cast your vote.

Gerrymandering is abused by both sides in my opinion. It's used to maximize the potential seats of the party in power.

But yeah, I can see Republicans squeezing out 25 House seats from the big blue states with a change in the rules.

https://youtu.be/cPsGTIpWQao

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

Originally posted by wikipedia:

In the lead-up to the 2010 United States elections, the Republican Party initiated a program called REDMAP, the Redistricting Majority Project, which recognized that the party in control of state legislatures would have the ability to set their congressional and legislative district maps based on the pending 2010 United States census in manner to assure that party's control over the next ten years.

The Republicans took significant gains from the 2010 elections across several states, and by 2011 and 2012, some of the new district maps showed Republican advantage through perceived partisan gerrymandering.

This set the stage for several legal challenges from voters and groups in the court system, including several heard at the Supreme Court level.[19]

In 2018, Wisconsin's maps resulted in Democrats winning all statewide offices and the popular vote, but netting only 36 of 99 seats in the state assembly.[20]

Originally posted by Houseman:

https://x.com/ElectionWiz/status/1951627479531057612

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/080125zr_i4dk.pdf


I didn't know we had race-based gerrymandering. I assume that means that voting districts are drawn in a way to capture a specific racial majority, such as making an area with mostly blacks a different district than an area with mostly whites.

Should this continue to be allowed?

Does this violate the 14th and/or 15th amendments?

The 15th says: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude–"

Does this imply that if Democrats didn't have the advantage of gerrymandering, they would lose?

Good. The Democrats shouldn't be anywhere near power and control anyways.

And get the census recounted as well 🍻🏆

Lots of states are sliced up so a few highly populated suburbs also control the politics of several counties outside of the city too. They slice off just enough urban areas to place with the rest to get the desired results.

They both play that game, but Republicans are generally much better at it.