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Bartering and bargaining in the west
Do you barter in shops? It's normal to barter in the global south.

I wondered why westerners don't barter? Everything has a standardized price in the shops.
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“I don’t make the prices. I just work here.”
no, but getting the 'good guy' discount feels nice and if there's something that bugs me about the clerk I might purposefully try to get them to dislike me by engaging a good guy discount situation.

it's basically a vestigial practice though, the us has to upsell the skillset by rarifying it.
Last edited by rabapraba p; 6 Aug @ 4:56am
Arvaos 6 Aug @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
“I don’t make the prices. I just work here.”

That's true but it seems strange because humans bartered for thousands of years and still do in the global south which makes up 88% of the global population.

Is it really a case of corporations running everything and setting their own prices? That has led to profit gouging in the west.
Originally posted by Arvaos:
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
“I don’t make the prices. I just work here.”

That's true but it seems strange because humans bartered for thousands of years and still do in the global south which makes up 88% of the global population.

Is it really a case of corporations running everything and setting their own prices? That has led to profit gouging in the west.

the worker doesn't get anything from refusing you, and all they get from giving you the discount is a momentary sensation of power.

the people actually involved in enacting the transaction have no entrance into the process.
Last edited by rabapraba p; 6 Aug @ 4:58am
I think the Amish still do that.

They make really good pies. All for the low cost of inseminating their colony with some fresh outsider blood.
Arvaos 6 Aug @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by rabapraba p:
Originally posted by Arvaos:

That's true but it seems strange because humans bartered for thousands of years and still do in the global south which makes up 88% of the global population.

Is it really a case of corporations running everything and setting their own prices? That has led to profit gouging in the west.

the worker doesn't get anything from refusing you, and all they get from giving you the discount is a momentary sensation of power.

the people actually involved in enacting the transaction have no entrance into the process.

While that's true, it seems that the ability to barter and negotiate is an art that is no longer practiced in the west.

It's a case of "buy our corporate slop and the price we set or don't eat."

In the case of games, you can boycott premium $80 games and buy independent.
Originally posted by Master of Politics:
I think the Amish still do that.

They make really good pies. All for the low cost of inseminating their colony with some fresh outsider blood.

you aren't supposed to bargain your community up or down, as this creates status and difference and hierarchies that aren't supposed to exist.

it's more normalized to bargain with outsiders though, as the us government put pressure on them to do so or else face economic insoluability. after bargaining with them to remove all of the amish protected forestlands, thereby depriving them of non-market lumber.

arguably if they hadn't bargained with the government they wouldn't find themselves compromising their morality to bargain more.
Last edited by rabapraba p; 6 Aug @ 5:10am
Originally posted by Arvaos:
Originally posted by rabapraba p:

the worker doesn't get anything from refusing you, and all they get from giving you the discount is a momentary sensation of power.

the people actually involved in enacting the transaction have no entrance into the process.

While that's true, it seems that the ability to barter and negotiate is an art that is no longer practiced in the west.

It's a case of "buy our corporate slop and the price we set or don't eat."

In the case of games, you can boycott premium $80 games and buy independent.

no, I'm basically bargaining you for social interaction right now, and you're trying to take as much for yourself as you can.

it's simply constant and nobody wants to futz around with it at a register. they want to buy their biscuits and go home so their dog can bargain them for extra second hand smoke, after their boss spent all day bargaining them into extra labor outside the scope of their job description.
Last edited by rabapraba p; 6 Aug @ 5:12am
About the only major industry that barters, is the car industry, and then only on the dealer level. They Jack up the prices so high and rig the financeing of the car enough that they "allow" the customer to drive the price a little, since they are guaranteed a profit.
Originally posted by steven1mac:
About the only major industry that barters, is the car industry, and then only on the dealer level. They Jack up the prices so high and rig the financeing of the car enough that they "allow" the customer to drive the price a little, since they are guaranteed a profit.
It’s not the car prices that get to me. It’s the price to repair a car that gets to me.
Originally posted by Arvaos:
Do you barter in shops? It's normal to barter in the global south.

I wondered why westerners don't barter? Everything has a standardized price in the shops.

Are you mixing up bartering with haggling? Anyone in the 'West' as well as the 'Global South,' with a modicum of social engagement, knows the appropriate setting for haggling.
eram 6 Aug @ 5:44am 
id give Arvaos a bad haircut then charge him double
Originally posted by eram:
id give Arvaos a bad haircut then charge him double

Coincidentally ... The Ibiza Boss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNRYKoZRJCc
eram 6 Aug @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Beneteau:
Originally posted by eram:
id give Arvaos a bad haircut then charge him double

Coincidentally ... The Ibiza Boss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNRYKoZRJCc
loving his rise , so fast too.
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