Is Trump really that delusional? Putin won't give up his war and Ukraine won't stop till every Russian is gone. So tell me how Trump wants to solve that little problem?

I don’t know much about the whole ukraine thing, but i do know that some of the billions that were sent over there vanished.

Throughout the last three years the situation hasn't changed one bit.

Ukraine doesn't have the military strength or capabilities to push Russia out of the land they already occupy; sure, they can mount flashy operations with swarms of drones, or send a dozen men to blow up a bridge or two but there's a reason why the only serious military offensive mounted by Ukraine ended in abject failure.

Russia at the same time doesn't have the capacity to overwhelm all the support Ukraine receives from the West, not unless they are able to target that support before it arrives at the front.


Neither side can win at this point because neither side can really grind the other down enough to achieve an advantage.

The only chance for Ukraine to win is for the West to get involved directly, to have German, Italian, French, British, American etc soldiers on the field and fighters in the air.
The only chance for Russia to win is to start throwing long range rockets at the factories producing military equipment, the supply depots, the training camps etc that are located in Poland, Germany, France etc.

In either case the only real results such moves might achieve would be to extend the conflict.
And since Russia has held to the doctrine that tactical nukes are to and will be used in case of foreign invasion since the 50s, any offensive serious enough to threaten Russia might very well result in nuclear war.



So yes, diplomacy will still be the best solution to the conflict and yes, that means Ukraine will have to give up some of their lands, just as Russia will have to renounce some of their claims.
Neither side will be happy about it, both sides will complain and history has shown us it's unlikely this peace will be permanent in the long run.

But the alternative is an endless meat grinder, an even bigger meat grinder or nukes dropping out from the sky.
Personally, I'll take Zelensky and Putin being a bit disappointed over those scenarios.

Originally posted by EASY PETE:

I don’t know much about the whole ukraine thing, but i do know that some of the billions that were sent over there vanished.

Trump is a businessman. He understands business. He doesn't understand war.

Well problem here is that Putin won't budge it is some sort of personal crusade for him

Russia simply has to leave occupied territories.

But Russia doesn't need more land. They've got enough already. Putin will go back for more in a few years or invade another country. He's still got 20% of the land from Georgia.

Orange man dumb.

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Russia simply has to leave occupied territories.

And if they don't?

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Trump is a businessman. He understands business.

He played one on TV, you mean.

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Originally posted by EASY PETE:

I don’t know much about the whole ukraine thing, but i do know that some of the billions that were sent over there vanished.

Trump is a businessman. He understands business. He doesn't understand war.

He was never a politician to begin with. Just a man that threaten allies and enemies with tarifs if he dont get his wish.

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Russia simply has to leave occupied territories.

And if they don't?

then the war continues.

Protip: dont invade other countries.

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

And if they don't?

then the war continues.

Protip: dont invade other countries.

And who do you think it hurts more for it to continue? The ones taking land or the ones losing it?

Mr. President Zelansky is totally right. If trump wants to willingly gift territory to russia, he can sign a deal to give away alaska, not land that isn't even under his sphere of influence.

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

then the war continues.

Protip: dont invade other countries.

And who do you think it hurts more for it to continue? The ones taking land or the ones losing it?

lol, such a twisted take.