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Do you think innocent victims/collateral damage/undesired consequences are sometimes necessary?
If you're trying to make an important point or send a critical message do you believe that there has to be an acceptance that some people you aren't targeting will still suffer for it but carrying onward is more important than staying your hand just because that will happen?

Like if you get fired unjustly is trying to commit some sabotage on your way out to ensure your employers know how asinine they were to someone as loyal and hardworking as you still the right choice even if your ex-coworkers are going to have to clean up your mess, despite not being the ones who wronged you?
Last edited by SolidSonicMania; 13 Aug @ 8:33am
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Paulie 13 Aug @ 8:28am 
Should be avoided at any cost. However should innocents become harmed their families should be justly compensated.

Sometimes collateral just cant be avoided.
jahpeg 13 Aug @ 8:29am 
hi obama
Idk. Was nuking Japan necessary? It’s an honest question.
Paulie 13 Aug @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Idk. Was nuking Japan necessary? It’s an honest question.
actually. more civilian lives were saved that way. The propoganda of imperial japan was causing mass hysteria amongst the japanese population. Okinawan japanese civilians were reported to jumping off cliffs and committing suicide to avoid the "wrath of the americans" to the point where americans were ordered to intervene if they saw japanese civilians attempting to take their own life.

a Mainland invasion of japan would likely have been a gory hostage situation which would have prolonged the war for another 2-3 years.

So with that in mind, do you think setting them off was a better option?
Goldias 13 Aug @ 8:35am 
For making a point like that, no. Not productive.

But to achieve something maybe yes.
Originally posted by Paulie:
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Idk. Was nuking Japan necessary? It’s an honest question.
actually. more civilian lives were saved that way. The propoganda of imperial japan was causing mass hysteria amongst the japanese population. Okinawan japanese civilians were reported to jumping off cliffs and committing suicide to avoid the "wrath of the americans" to the point where americans were ordered to intervene if they saw japanese civilians attempting to take their own life.

a Mainland invasion of japan would likely have been a gory hostage situation which would have prolonged the war for another 2-3 years.

So with that in mind, do you think setting them off was a better option?
I’m no historian but wasn’t Japan about to surrender even before the nukes?
Paulie 13 Aug @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Originally posted by Paulie:
actually. more civilian lives were saved that way. The propoganda of imperial japan was causing mass hysteria amongst the japanese population. Okinawan japanese civilians were reported to jumping off cliffs and committing suicide to avoid the "wrath of the americans" to the point where americans were ordered to intervene if they saw japanese civilians attempting to take their own life.

a Mainland invasion of japan would likely have been a gory hostage situation which would have prolonged the war for another 2-3 years.

So with that in mind, do you think setting them off was a better option?
I’m no historian but wasn’t Japan about to surrender even before the nukes?
the admiralty was ready to surrender, they needed the Emporer's approval. The emporer however was not budging. After nagasaki he finally conceded because # 3 was going to land on his head.
Clippy 13 Aug @ 8:47am 
To think is the opposite of do.
never necessary, but its going to happen every single time anyway because it would be too expensive and time consuming for soulless world governments to perform for more precise strikes/operations.
Prinny 13 Aug @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Idk. Was nuking Japan necessary? It’s an honest question.
That's a question that will have to be answered by those who were never alive while all of us have lived to meet anyone alive then are still around.

What's the cost of stopping a North Japan / South Japan situation? I don't know.
Was the United States the one to make that decision in earnest? I don't know.
Should we have fought the Japanese to the last man, woman, and child without using nukes? I don't know.

But remember the US killed more with the firebombing of Tokyo than with both nuclear bombs combined. Those victims get ignored in favor of the more politically interesting ones, and that's not fair.
Adept 13 Aug @ 9:35am 
Unless the enemy is on your land and civilians are working on their new front line or something no. Nobody should be allowed to just bomb everything because " bad guys" Unless you are israel then you are allowed to do whatever you want apparently.
Ulfrinn 13 Aug @ 9:36am 
If you try to commit sabotage in a tantrum because you didn't get your way, it proves the employers were correct, and you're unfit for the workplace.
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
If you try to commit sabotage in a tantrum because you didn't get your way, it proves the employers were correct, and you're unfit for the workplace.
Excuse me, SON, are we going to have an issue here?
Ulfrinn 13 Aug @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by SolidSonicMania:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
If you try to commit sabotage in a tantrum because you didn't get your way, it proves the employers were correct, and you're unfit for the workplace.
Excuse me, SON, are we going to have an issue here?

You might. It depends on how offended you get when hearing the truth.
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