Except technically it does if it wants continued US 'support'.

This implies that the US has been running this war the whole time.

He's desperate to keep Poland happy isn't he?

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:

Except technically it does if it wants continued US 'support'.

It is the Weapon use.
If the USA supplies weapons it can have condition of sale.

Like with the German tanks that Germany decided to stall on the allowance of all other countries who purchased them to give to Ukraine.

A frustrating thing is Ukraine is expected to uphold all of NATO restrictions on engagement even though it is not in NATO and is fighting a war of survival.

Originally posted by jocoo:

Originally posted by Fact Guy No.1342:

Zelenskyy: Ukraine does not need US permission to strike Russia

USA led NATO provides all of the targeting data from the war room in Germany that controls the entire war, without targeting data there are no targets. Ukraine needs US approval to strike targets in Russia with long range NATO supplied munitions.

Correct. Ukraine has no access to the satellite feeds. You need to have access to the satellites to even fire these cruise missiles. Those missiles don't work without those satellites.

The Flamingo disagrees as it can use the INS.

Ukrainian needs to rely on lower tech missiles, even Saddam's SCUD missile were a lot more accurate than the media tried to portray. Sure, you will waste shots, but the missiles trying to shoot yours down will cost more. Putin is already playing that game, using cheap missiles and drones to get the best bang for the buck in areas that are subject to jamming.

Originally posted by 🖤:

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:

Except technically it does if it wants continued US 'support'.

No one wants US support, the whole world hates us.

I'm fairly certain Ukraine wants it, if only to defend until Putin can be put back in his box. He is the agressor here, they started this invasion.

Ukraine can strike Russia any time and any way they please.

All it means, is we cannot and will not support Ukraine in any way.

It's that simple.

It is not our war and in that, they should fight it out how they fancy, and leave us OUT the picture

The Flamingo with GPS can land within 14 meters.

With INS and without any GPS it is tens of meters potentially of error.

Still close enough to blow the arms factory up.

for people wondering : The Flamingo : Ukrainian developed Cruise Missile.
sorry : INS = Inertial Navigational System

Originally posted by Fact Guy No.1342:

Zelenskyy: Ukraine does not need US permission to strike Russia

Yeah, especially as a USA citizen, they're in their own war; and part of our stances, found in Washington's farewell address is specifically to *avoid* foreign entanglements; there's NO reason to think they *would* need our permission... it is simply silly to figure they would.
Likewise, it'd be utter *suicide* for Russia to attack *actual* USA soil, or any "protectorate" of ours.

Originally posted by jocoo:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Ukraine can strike Russia any time and any way they please.

Not effectively, it's that simple.

They did pretty darn well via drone-strikes. BOTH sides videos confirm *that* abundantly.
These two countries in that are in a war; that does make this kind of a move fair game.

Ukraine has been fighting this war with one arm tied behind its' back.

Originally posted by jocoo:

Originally posted by Santa Klaus:

Ukraine has been fighting this war with one arm tied behind its' back.

Ukraine would be completely overrun by now if it was not for NATO's support. It still may be.

They're still losing anyway, despite Russia's restraints.

Originally posted by Fact Guy No.1342:

Zelenskyy: Ukraine does not need US permission to strike Russia

it is not what he said

he said ukraine need usa permission to use usa weapon to strike in russia

but ukraine doesnt ask usa permission when they use stormshadow, scalp or their own drone to bomb inside russia