not even true

This is feminist copium

Originally posted by Cyberpunk Alien:

This is feminist copium

I thought soyboys and stuff was one of those alpha male tough guy things to say.

Originally posted by Arvaos:

Men in their 20's today have the same level as men in their late 60's in the 2000's.

Are you comparing yourself to your dad? Is this anecdotal evidence, hence the lack of actual evidence?

Or do you magically know the T levels worldwide of all men?

Wheres the statistics, arvaos?

Originally posted by Aleksas:

Or do you magically know the T levels worldwide of all men?

magic bean for people who cannot even google:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006

High testosterone is over rated and can cause hair loss.

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

Originally posted by Aleksas:

Or do you magically know the T levels worldwide of all men?

magic bean for people who cannot even google:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006

Turkish virus link

Originally posted by Aleksas:

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

magic bean for people who cannot even google:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006

Turkish virus link

yes, science is a virus to ur kind

Good, less stupid wars and rich geriatrics can`t get them easily recruited into it.

A 2021 study found that average testosterone levels among young men ages 15–40 decreased by nearly 25% over a 17-year period. Average testosterone levels decreased from 605.39 ng/dL in 1999 to 2000 to 451.22 ng/dL in 2015 to 2016.

The 2021 Study: "Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels Among Adolescent and Young Adult Men in the USA"Authors: Soum D Lokeshwar, Premal Patel, Richard J Fantus, Joshua Halpern, Cecilia Chang, Atil Y Kargi, Ranjith Ramasamy.

Originally posted by Arvaos:

Originally posted by Aleksas:

Are you comparing yourself to your dad? Is this anecdotal evidence, hence the lack of actual evidence?

Or do you magically know the T levels worldwide of all men?

Wheres the statistics, arvaos?

A 2021 study found that average testosterone levels among young men ages 15–40 decreased by nearly 25% over a 17-year period. Average testosterone levels decreased from 605.39 ng/dL in 1999 to 2000 to 451.22 ng/dL in 2015 to 2016.

Based on the search results, here is the 2021 study you requested:The 2021 Study: "Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels Among Adolescent and Young Adult Men in the USA"Authors: Soum D Lokeshwar, Premal Patel, Richard J Fantus, Joshua Halpern, Cecilia Chang, Atil Y Kargi, Ranjith Ramasamy (Discounted Labs)Published: European Urology Focus, Volume 7, Issue 4, July 2021, Pages 886-889DOI: 10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006Study Details:Methodology:Used data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys (NHANES) (Discounted Labs)Investigated total testosterone levels for 4,045 men aged 15-40 from 1999 to 2016 (Discounted Labs)Controlled for confounders including age, race, BMI, comorbidity status, alcohol and smoking use, and level of physical activity (Discounted Labs)Key Findings:Mean total testosterone levels declined over time: testosterone levels were lower in the later (2011-2016) than in the earlier (1999-2000) cycles (all p < 0.001) (Discounted Labs)Specific Numbers: Average testosterone levels decreased from 605.39 ng/dL in 1999-2000 to 451.22 ng/dL in 2015-2016, a drop of about 25%BMI Factor: Average BMI also rose over time, from 25.83 in 1999 to 27.96 in 2016. However, testosterone levels decreased about 20% among men with normal BMI measures as well — from 664.79 ng/dL in 1999 to 529.24 ng/dL in 2016Elevated body mass index (BMI) was associated with lower total testosterone, but the trend remained significant even among men with normal BMI (Discounted Labs)Clinical Significance:Testosterone deficiency has a prevalence of 20% among adolescent and young adult (AYA) malesThis study has important clinical implications, as low serum testosterone has been associated with underlying comorbidities and potentially higher mortality riskStudy Limitations: Limitations include the influence of confounding variables such as environmental factors and the use of differing assays for testosterone measurement (Discounted Labs)This study was the first to specifically examine testosterone trends in adolescents and young adults, confirming that the population-level testosterone decline documented in older studies was also occurring in younger men.

To be fair, the abstract does say that "Further studies using other data streams are needed to validate these findings."

Originally posted by Arvaos:

A 2021 study found that average testosterone levels among young men ages 15–40 decreased by nearly 25% over a 17-year period. Average testosterone levels decreased from 605.39 ng/dL in 1999 to 2000 to 451.22 ng/dL in 2015 to 2016.

The 2021 Study: "Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels Among Adolescent and Young Adult Men in the USA"Authors: Soum D Lokeshwar, Premal Patel, Richard J Fantus, Joshua Halpern, Cecilia Chang, Atil Y Kargi, Ranjith Ramasamy.

the only conclusion is, high body fat = low T

they did not need to do this study at all as this was a known fact alreary. all they had to do is to say young males in USA are getting heavier

Originally posted by Lupa:

Originally posted by Arvaos:

A 2021 study found that average testosterone levels among young men ages 15–40 decreased by nearly 25% over a 17-year period. Average testosterone levels decreased from 605.39 ng/dL in 1999 to 2000 to 451.22 ng/dL in 2015 to 2016.

Based on the search results, here is the 2021 study you requested:The 2021 Study: "Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels Among Adolescent and Young Adult Men in the USA"Authors: Soum D Lokeshwar, Premal Patel, Richard J Fantus, Joshua Halpern, Cecilia Chang, Atil Y Kargi, Ranjith Ramasamy (Discounted Labs)Published: European Urology Focus, Volume 7, Issue 4, July 2021, Pages 886-889DOI: 10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006Study Details:Methodology:Used data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys (NHANES) (Discounted Labs)Investigated total testosterone levels for 4,045 men aged 15-40 from 1999 to 2016 (Discounted Labs)Controlled for confounders including age, race, BMI, comorbidity status, alcohol and smoking use, and level of physical activity (Discounted Labs)Key Findings:Mean total testosterone levels declined over time: testosterone levels were lower in the later (2011-2016) than in the earlier (1999-2000) cycles (all p < 0.001) (Discounted Labs)Specific Numbers: Average testosterone levels decreased from 605.39 ng/dL in 1999-2000 to 451.22 ng/dL in 2015-2016, a drop of about 25%BMI Factor: Average BMI also rose over time, from 25.83 in 1999 to 27.96 in 2016. However, testosterone levels decreased about 20% among men with normal BMI measures as well — from 664.79 ng/dL in 1999 to 529.24 ng/dL in 2016Elevated body mass index (BMI) was associated with lower total testosterone, but the trend remained significant even among men with normal BMI (Discounted Labs)Clinical Significance:Testosterone deficiency has a prevalence of 20% among adolescent and young adult (AYA) malesThis study has important clinical implications, as low serum testosterone has been associated with underlying comorbidities and potentially higher mortality riskStudy Limitations: Limitations include the influence of confounding variables such as environmental factors and the use of differing assays for testosterone measurement (Discounted Labs)This study was the first to specifically examine testosterone trends in adolescents and young adults, confirming that the population-level testosterone decline documented in older studies was also occurring in younger men.

To be fair, the abstract does say that "Further studies using other data streams are needed to validate these findings."

The Massachusetts Male Aging Study (1987-2004) - This is the big one. They tracked guys from 1987 to 2004 and found testosterone dropped 1.2% per year regardless of age. Median levels went from 501 ng/dL to 435 ng/dL to 391 ng/dL across the study periods. That's not normal aging - that's something else entirely.

NHANES Study (1999-2016) - Even scarier. They looked at over 4,000 young guys (15-40) and found average testosterone dropped from 605 ng/dL in 1999 to 451 ng/dL in 2015. That's a 25% decrease in guys who should be in their prime.

International data backs this up:
- Finnish and Danish studies show the same pattern
- Israeli study found T levels dropped over 10% across almost every age group between 2006-2019
- Australian research shows free testosterone declining at 2% per year

Originally posted by Arvaos:

Originally posted by Lupa:

To be fair, the abstract does say that "Further studies using other data streams are needed to validate these findings."

The Massachusetts Male Aging Study (1987-2004) - This is the big one. They tracked guys from 1987 to 2004 and found testosterone dropped 1.2% per year regardless of age. Median levels went from 501 ng/dL to 435 ng/dL to 391 ng/dL across the study periods. That's not normal aging - that's something else entirely.

NHANES Study (1999-2016) - Even scarier. They looked at over 4,000 young guys (15-40) and found average testosterone dropped from 605 ng/dL in 1999 to 451 ng/dL in 2015. That's a 25% decrease in guys who should be in their prime.

International data backs this up:
- Finnish and Danish studies show the same pattern
- Israeli study found T levels dropped over 10% across almost every age group between 2006-2019
- Australian research shows free testosterone declining at 2% per year

May I ask for the PDF links to the entire studies of these rather then short spark notes?

Yea probably
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F5SPkfcloY

Weak socialist man beaten by woman
https://youtu.be/JL9wvO78k2k