Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Remember when these were surprising?

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/shooting-minneapolis-minnesota-annunciation-school-live-updates-b2815115.html

Originally posted by gwwak:

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Remember when these were surprising?

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/shooting-minneapolis-minnesota-annunciation-school-live-updates-b2815115.html

I'll grab the popcorn. This thread is going to go places.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Remember this kind of problem has been solved in rich schools.

Rich people like Obama will never have to worry about a school shooting because their kids are protected by armed people. This would stop school shooters, but the left and RINOs would rather pretend this problem doesn't have a solution.

A recent study by researchers from The Violence Project suggests that armed guards in schools don’t reduce fatalities. Researchers examined 133 school shootings and attempted school shootings between 1980 and 2019, tallied up by the K-12 School Shooting Database. At least one armed guard was present in almost a quarter of cases studied, and researchers found no significant reduction in rates of injuries in these cases. In fact, shootings at schools with an armed guard ended with three times as many people killed, on average. “Whenever firearms are present, there is room for error, and even highly trained officers get split-second decisions wrong,” the researchers wrote. “Prior research suggests that many school shooters are actively suicidal, intending to die in the act, so an armed officer may be an incentive rather than a deterrent.”

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Remember this kind of problem has been solved in rich schools.

Rich people like Obama will never have to worry about a school shooting because their kids are protected by armed people. This would stop school shooters, but the left and RINOs would rather pretend this problem doesn't have a solution.

Boy, you sure do love propaganda

https://www.thetrace.org/2023/08/guns-armed-guards-school-shootings/

A recent study by researchers from The Violence Project suggests that armed guards in schools don’t reduce fatalities. Researchers examined 133 school shootings and attempted school shootings between 1980 and 2019, tallied up by the K-12 School Shooting Database. At least one armed guard was present in almost a quarter of cases studied, and researchers found no significant reduction in rates of injuries in these cases. In fact, shootings at schools with an armed guard ended with three times as many people killed, on average. “Whenever firearms are present, there is room for error, and even highly trained officers get split-second decisions wrong,” the researchers wrote. “Prior research suggests that many school shooters are actively suicidal, intending to die in the act, so an armed officer may be an incentive rather than a deterrent.”

Parkland, Florida (2018): Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School had an armed resource officer on campus during the shooting. The officer did not engage the shooter, who killed 17 people and injured 17 others

Santa Fe, Texas (2018): An armed guard was present at Santa Fe High School when a shooting occurred, resulting in 10 deaths. The guard did not stop the attack

Nashville, Tennessee (2023): The Covenant School, a private institution, had armed security, but a shooter still killed three children and three adults before being engaged by police

Red Lake Senior High School, Minnesota (2005): An armed security officer was present but was unable to prevent the shooter from killing 5 students and 3 staff members

Research by Louis Klarevas of Columbia University found that only 18 of 111 mass shootings between 1966 and 2015 occurred in "gun-free zones." Shooters often target schools with armed guards, suggesting that the presence of guards is not a reliable deterrent

Originally posted by jocoo:

What is the definition of a "mass shooting"?

Originally posted by jocoo:

What is the definition of a "mass shooting"?

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Boy, you sure do love propaganda

https://www.thetrace.org/2023/08/guns-armed-guards-school-shootings/



Parkland, Florida (2018): Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School had an armed resource officer on campus during the shooting. The officer did not engage the shooter, who killed 17 people and injured 17 others

Santa Fe, Texas (2018): An armed guard was present at Santa Fe High School when a shooting occurred, resulting in 10 deaths. The guard did not stop the attack

Nashville, Tennessee (2023): The Covenant School, a private institution, had armed security, but a shooter still killed three children and three adults before being engaged by police

Red Lake Senior High School, Minnesota (2005): An armed security officer was present but was unable to prevent the shooter from killing 5 students and 3 staff members

Research by Louis Klarevas of Columbia University found that only 18 of 111 mass shootings between 1966 and 2015 occurred in "gun-free zones." Shooters often target schools with armed guards, suggesting that the presence of guards is not a reliable deterrent

It's simple facts. Just because some schools had armed security and it didn't help doesn't actually disprove my claim.

Does Obama kids have crappy washed up rent-a-cops guarding their kids or professionals??

Obama's kids are protected, other rich kids are protected. We could protect our kids but the left would rather stand on the bodies of the slain and push to remove peoples rights.

Sorry but you liberals won't be removing anyone's rights anytime soon.

Originally posted by OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle:

Unfortunately, no, I do not remember when this was surprising. Chalk it up as #59392749937

But clearly, there is no way that cultural and social factors contribute to this phenomenon! These are "isolated" "incidents!"

Originally posted by NoRain :( 🗕 🗗 🗙:

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

It's simple facts. Just because some schools had armed security and it didn't help doesn't actually disprove my claim.

Does Obama kids have crappy washed up rent-a-cops guarding their kids or professionals??

Obama's kids are protected, other rich kids are protected. We could protect our kids but the left would rather stand on the bodies of the slain and push to remove peoples rights.

Sorry but you liberals won't be removing anyone's rights anytime soon.

So just to be clear, your solution is getting one or more secret service agents per kid for every school? Insightful

Again, nowhere did I advocate for taking away guns; that's your own political insecurity being highlighted. If your armed guards worked, it'd be shown; you don't like seeing the facts. the fact is that Gun-free establishments are 62.5% less likely to experience active shootings