Steam macOS 10.13 and 10.14 Support

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TheOrangeBox 30. nov. 2023 kl. 12:30

So STEAM decided to lock you out of your house 'cause they couldn't be bother to keep the game launcher supported for the game you purchased.

What a bunch of ludicrous policy when they're keep selling 32bit games on their store and now they've decided to lock you out.

Criminal Mobster

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EDIT: Below is a summary of some alternative after Feb 2024:

Alternative 1.
Look at some of the solutions suggested in the STEAM client survival kit found here:
https://blog.lightwo.net/steam-client-downgrades-survival-kit.html

Alternative 2.
Use terminal command without loading the built-in browser and instead use STEAM Small Mode, info found here:
https://garden.alessandrocuzzocrea.com/launch-steam-no-browser

Alternative 3.
Upgrade to Catalina and use Play on Mac (www.playonmac.com) as emulator to run 32bit games. Video tutorial found here:
https://youtu.be/DYom6i2CDec

Alternative 4.
Use SteamCMD in terminal for installing games checking steamdb.info for the package (game) IDs, info found here:
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD
https://steamdb.info/
Do note that using SteamCMD to install games will only work for DRM-free games.

Alternative 5.
Upgrade to Catalina and then install the free mac emulator 'The Porting Kit'. It allows to install STEAM using Wineskin and then be able to play 32bit games.
www.portingkit.com

Sidst redigeret af TheOrangeBox; 3. feb. 2024 kl. 0:06

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alexmaru 30. nov. 2023 kl. 13:16

Old Steam would'nt shut down, it will just not update anymore.

It can give a hope for a new macs, since 2016, and since 2020, because Vavle shutted down any kind of updates 7 years ago.

TheOrangeBox 30. nov. 2023 kl. 13:58

Oprindeligt skrevet af alexmaru:
Old Steam would'nt shut down, it will just not update anymore.

It can give a hope for a new macs, since 2016, and since 2020, because Vavle shutted down any kind of updates 7 years ago.

The issue is they haven't be clear with their corporate talk which is a fault in itself.

The second issue is STEAM store is build using google chrome (a webbrowser). It's well known that chrome needs constant patching and debugging. So switching from STEAM app to a STEAM browser wasn't a smart thing to do.

And lastly the fact that they sell 32bit products and now deciding that you no longer will be able to access such product that you purchased because of the fault of STEAM gatekeeper launcher is just criminal.

Not to mentioned that when Apple switched to 64bit, STEAM was ego to let everyone know that you could still be playing mac games on STEAM by having a 32bit system installed in your rig.

JJ_Underscore1 30. nov. 2023 kl. 23:50

So if I log my steam account from mac into an actual pc (which I've finally gotten) will it lock me out of my account still or???

rockywaist 1. dec. 2023 kl. 0:51

The notice that Steam will not support MacOS 10.14 in 76 days came up. I have a library full of 32bit games that I saved for retirement, I hope I will still be able to access those. MacOS 10.14 is the last OS that supports 32bit, I bought a 2017 iMac to run it. If they lock me out of my 32bit library I will expect full compensation.

Cathulhu 1. dec. 2023 kl. 1:08

When the CEF update gets deployed, all clients will update and no longer work on unsupported systems.
No refunds will be granted.

Sidst redigeret af Cathulhu; 1. dec. 2023 kl. 1:08

TheOrangeBox 1. dec. 2023 kl. 2:01

Here's what STEAM support says about options to keep 32-bit Mac games playable on a Mac computer:
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https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/5E0D-522A-4E62-B6EF

emberfrost8 1. dec. 2023 kl. 4:46

Apple has been moving towards exclusively supporting 64-bit applications on its operating systems. You've probably heard that starting with macOS Catalina, Apple no longer supports 32-bit apps. The saddest thing is that this change means that applications, including games that are 32-bit, will not run on macOS versions 10.15 and later.

TheOrangeBox 1. dec. 2023 kl. 11:49

Oprindeligt skrevet af emberfrost8:
Apple has been moving towards exclusively supporting 64-bit applications on its operating systems. You've probably heard that starting with macOS Catalina, Apple no longer supports 32-bit apps. The saddest thing is that this change means that applications, including games that are 32-bit, will not run on macOS versions 10.15 and later.

The problem isn't OSX, the problem is STEAM built-in browser around Chromium.
As a result of Google Chromium no longer supporting macOS 10.13 and 10.14, STEAM is locking out clients even when both OSX can run the 32bit games.

They could just remove the shopping cart capability and leave the launcher functionality alone so people can access their games.

They could easily do this.

Sidst redigeret af TheOrangeBox; 1. dec. 2023 kl. 11:58

Cathulhu 1. dec. 2023 kl. 11:58

Apple stopped support for 10.13 and 10.14 years ago. It's not surprising others follow.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253571493

TheOrangeBox 1. dec. 2023 kl. 13:36

Oprindeligt skrevet af Cathulhu:
Apple stopped support for 10.13 and 10.14 years ago. It's not surprising others follow.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253571493

Both 10.13 and 10.14 are 64bit working system.

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Cathulhu 1. dec. 2023 kl. 13:41

How does that matter in terms of support? Apple no longer updates those versions.

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TheOrangeBox 1. dec. 2023 kl. 13:42

Oprindeligt skrevet af Cathulhu:
How does that matter in terms of support? Apple no longer updates those versions.

They do, they just don't advertise it.

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xrys 1. dec. 2023 kl. 15:20

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheOrangeBox:
Oprindeligt skrevet af emberfrost8:
Apple has been moving towards exclusively supporting 64-bit applications on its operating systems. You've probably heard that starting with macOS Catalina, Apple no longer supports 32-bit apps. The saddest thing is that this change means that applications, including games that are 32-bit, will not run on macOS versions 10.15 and later.

The problem isn't OSX, the problem is STEAM built-in browser around Chromium.
As a result of Google Chromium no longer supporting macOS 10.13 and 10.14, STEAM is locking out clients even when both OSX can run the 32bit games.

They could just remove the shopping cart capability and leave the launcher functionality alone so people can access their games.

They could easily do this.

^ This right here.
Relying on Chromium is a bit lazy at this point. I understand why they use Chromium rather than rolling their own, but they could at least not force the last supported Steam version to auto-update, and then disable the shopping cart and any feature that requires security to protect payments.

Sidst redigeret af xrys; 1. dec. 2023 kl. 15:46

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TheOrangeBox 1. dec. 2023 kl. 16:04

Oprindeligt skrevet af xrys:

^ This right here.
Relying on Chromium is a bit lazy at this point. I understand why they use Chromium rather than rolling their own, but they could at least not force the last supported Steam version to auto-update, and then disable the shopping cart and any feature that requires security to protect payments.

I have another Mac running the latest OS, but my favorite games are 32-bit and don't work beyond OS 10.14. That's why I keep my 2019 MBP around. I paid for the games, so I should be able to play them.

They haven't though this through.

Especially when on one hand they say run Mojave for 32bit games and on the other hand they say Steam will stop running on Mojave.

Either way we should be able to access the games as not having access to the games after Feb 2024 is an issue created by Steam and not by the user.

This breach most basic consumer right in most countries, these consumer rights cannot be excluded, restricted or modified as Steam wishes.

If Steam update will lock consumer out of accessing, downloading, and playing the game then Steam is liable of breaching such consumer rights.

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