After 30 years of PlayStation i switched to Steam...but...
Hey guys,

after 30 years of gaming on PlayStation, i finally switched to Steam as i think that PC Gaming is the best choice overall.

However there are some things that annoy me and i really hope to find people here with convincing arguments that can put my mind at ease. So here we go:


Annoyance Number 1 - Xbox Buttons:
Here is the thing, i don't mind the Xbox Controller itself, but i very much prefer to play/see PlayStation Symbols over the Xbox letters. I really really like the PlayStation Symbols (Square, Triangle, Circle, X) much much more than the Letters on Xbox (A, B, X, Y)

Right now im playing with a PS4 controller and my question is: Is there a way...to play all my Steam games with PlayStation buttons? If the answer is yes, can you please explain to me in the most easy way possible (as im not a tech guy) how to make this setup? I would really appreciate it.


Annoyance Number 2 - Cheaters/Hackers:
The amount of cheaters/Hackers i've encountered so far on Steam is extremly disheartening, it's like from 10 players, half of them hacked their stuff.
On the PlayStation i genuinly dont remember seeing a hacker/cheater in game (im sure there are some), but with trophies there were hackers and cheaters.
I feel like there is not much we can do about the situation, but any sort of argument that could put my mind at ease would be very helpful, this whole thing makes me feel disgusted, because i am an achievement hunter and when i look at someones profile i sometimes think "how can i know that this guy got all achievements in a legit way?" because of these hackers/cheaters i always have my doubts now.


That would be all, hope somebody can help me out with this, i appreciate any sort of help.

Thank you
Last edited by Estus Chugger; 8 Jun @ 5:02am
< >
Showing 1-15 of 30 comments
~Ren~ 7 Jun @ 10:43pm 
I can't answer the controller question as I don't use one.

With regards to cheaters, unfortunately, they exist. Some people can't play fair and will do whatever it takes to ruin a game. The best defence against them is a good server with good admin, they can ban them and let you play a clean. fair game.

Alternatively, consider running your own server, you will then have the option of banning anyone you think is cheating, a word of warning though, some players are very good and although they might 'appear' as though they cheat, they are clean.
rawWwRrr 7 Jun @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Estus Chugger:
Annoyance Number 1 - Xbox Buttons:
Here is the thing, i don't mind the Xbox Controller itself, but i very much prefer to play/see PlayStation Symbols over the Xbox letters. I really really like the PlayStation Symbols (Square, Triangle, Circle, X) much much more than the Letters on Xbox (A, B, X, Y)

Right now im playing with a PS4 controller and my question is: Is there a way...to play all my Steam games with PlayStation buttons? If the answer is yes, can you please explain to me in the most easy way possible (as im not a tech guy) how to make this setup? I would really appreciate it.
I'm guessing you're talking about prompts in game. That is developer dependent. While you can use Steam to remap the ABXY to PS's symbols, unless the game has been programmed to display them, you'll have to remember which XBox symbol corresponds which PS symbol.

I'm partial to PS controllers as well. I have, unfortunately, just adapted to XBox layouts instead. Occasionally I'll encounter a game with native PS controls and it's wonderful grabbing my PS controller off the wall. All other times, I'm using an Xbox controller.
Ogami 8 Jun @ 12:04am 
With the gamepad buttons that depends if the developer implement the Playstation button icons or not.
Most of the time they dont bother. Thats simply because something like 90% of PC gamers that use gamepads use Xbox ones. Its just a near monopoly , reason being that only Xbox controllers had perfect compabilty in the past, its better now for other gamepad brands but old habits die hard.
Also Microsoft as the creator of Windows heavily promotes the use of their controllers, the drivers are build into Windows and its just the easiest way for most people who want to use a gamepad on PC.
Last edited by Ogami; 8 Jun @ 12:05am
I want to thank every single one of you guys for taking the time to respond to a New Member like me. Everything you guys said makes perfect sense and your arguments convinced me to just go for the Xbox Controller and adapt to it/get used to it, as it seems to be the most logical option.

Shame about the hackers/cheaters though, i wish their would be some better grip on the situation, but thanks to your information, i understand now that this is an "developer issue" and not from Steam.

Wish you guys the best, have a nice day
Stop pretending that console games don't have cheaters.
I don't believe that
Steam will be having a Summer sell in the near future, so put any game you want on a wish list, and they will email you if the game goes on sale.
Originally posted by Estus Chugger:
Annoyance Number 1 - Xbox Buttons:
Here is the thing, i don't mind the Xbox Controller itself, but i very much prefer to play/see PlayStation Symbols over the Xbox letters. I really really like the PlayStation Symbols (Square, Triangle, Circle, X) much much more than the Letters on Xbox (A, B, X, Y)

Right now im playing with a PS4 controller and my question is: Is there a way...to play all my Steam games with PlayStation buttons? If the answer is yes, can you please explain to me in the most easy way possible (as im not a tech guy) how to make this setup? I would really appreciate it.

No. That is on the developer. Some add a detection for PS controllers, some have setting in their menu for it, most do not.

You can mod the PS controller for Xbox buttons or try something like this:
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-pro-2-bluetooth-controller and those are the only options aside from using the Xbox controller.... or just adapt your mindset to convert the buttons. You do get used to it, eventually.


Originally posted by Estus Chugger:
Annoyance Number 2 - Cheaters/Hackers:
The amount of cheaters/Hackers i've encountered so far on Steam is extremly disheartening, it's like from 10 players, half of them hacked their stuff.
On the PlayStation i genuinly dont remember seeing a hacker/cheater in game (im sure there are some), but with trophies there were hackers and cheaters.
I feel like there is not much we can do about the situation, but any sort of argument that could put my mind at ease would be very helpful, this whole thing makes me feel disgusted, because i am an achievement hunter and when i look at someones profile i sometimes think "how can i know that this guy got all achievements in a legit way?" because of these hackers/cheaters i always have my doubts now.

Even console has cheaters/hackers. I've ran into them in the past on Playstation and Xbox games.

The nature of PCs being open, however, makes it more prone and easier for them to exist. A good Anti-Cheat may limit them, but they will still be there at time.

I mostly play co-op or single player, so don't really have an issue with them. If I do PvP it is usually with a group of friends, on a private server, so there are no issues with anyone hacking. I avoid highly competitive games like the plague. They are nothing but toxic cesspools these days.
Last edited by Spawn of Totoro; 8 Jun @ 6:52am
󠀡󠀡 8 Jun @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by Estus Chugger:

Annoyance Number 2 - Cheaters/Hackers:
The amount of cheaters/Hackers i've encountered so far on Steam is extremly disheartening, it's like from 10 players, half of them hacked their stuff.
On the PlayStation i genuinly dont remember seeing a hacker/cheater in game (im sure there are some), but with trophies there were hackers and cheaters.
I feel like there is not much we can do about the situation, but any sort of argument that could put my mind at ease would be very helpful, this whole thing makes me feel disgusted, because i am an achievement hunter and when i look at someones profile i sometimes think "how can i know that this guy got all achievements in a legit way?" because of these hackers/cheaters i always have my doubts now.
What a surprise! Hackers cheaters on a platform where millions of users interact in an often anonymous and minimally policed environment? Truly unprecedented. The accusation that "half the players on Steam hack" is as credible as saying "half the people at the grocery store are shoplifters" based on a glance. The sheer exaggeration here ...

Steam is a massive open platform, hosting games from AAA to complete indie nonsense, with wildly varying levels of anti-cheat enforcement. Of course you'll find cheaters. The platform's sheer scale guarantees some bad apples, but suggesting 50% of players cheat is delusion born from either terrible matchmaking, unlucky encounters, or confirmation bias. Playstation? Tighter walled garden, closed ecosystems, and Sony's stricter certification process inherently reduce cheating. It's not some magic hacker-free utopia ... it's simply a smaller, more controlled environment.

The real issue isn't "hackers exist" ... it's you acting like the existence of a few spoilsports ruins the entire experience. You claim you "feel disgusted" and can't trust achievement legitimacy anymore, but here's the thing: achievements and trophies have zero real-world value. They're pixels on a screen. Digital baubles for people with way too much time. If your entire joy is shattered because someone faked their "all achievements" badge, congratulations: you ruined it yourself.

"There's not much we can do!" You've only been here for a few weeks, so there's no need to get worked up about it - yet. There's still time.

And here's a reality check: achievements don't equal skill or honor. Cheaters inflate numbers, but their "accomplishments" mean nothing beyond a hollow "leaderboard rank". Maybe focus on your own gameplay and integrity instead of policing strangers who have zero impact on you.

So here's your mind-easing argument: yes.

There are cheaters.
No, they don't represent half the playerbase.
Yes, they're annoying ...
... but no, they don't diminish your genuine achievements.

The rest is just you, choosing to let a minority spoil your fun. Get over it. Or better yet, stop caring so much about meaningless digital trophies and find something worth your time.
Last edited by 󠀡󠀡; 8 Jun @ 10:44pm
Thank you very much Spawn of Totoro,

i feel much better now about the whole situation, to me this case is now finally closed.
You will get used to the Xbox/PC buttons fast. I did anyway and I never played on Xbox, only PlayStation.

Some games allow you to change button prompts to PlayStation controller, but most don't.

The X button still confuses me sometimes though. When I come back to a PlayStation after a long time, and the game prompts me to press X, i press square instead, because that's where X is on Xbox/PC style controller.
Originally posted by Estus Chugger:
Hey guys,

after 30 years of gaming on PlayStation, i finally switched to Steam as i think that PC Gaming is the best choice overall.

However there are some things that annoy me and i really hope to find people here with convincing arguments that can put my mind at ease. So here we go:


Annoyance Number 1 - Xbox Buttons:
Here is the thing, i don't mind the Xbox Controller itself, but i very much prefer to play/see PlayStation Symbols over the Xbox letters. I really really like the PlayStation Symbols (Square, Triangle, Circle, X) much much more than the Letters on Xbox (A, B, X, Y)

Right now im playing with a PS4 controller and my question is: Is there a way...to play all my Steam games with PlayStation buttons? If the answer is yes, can you please explain to me in the most easy way possible (as im not a tech guy) how to make this setup? I would really appreciate it.


Annoyance Number 2 - Cheaters/Hackers:
The amount of cheaters/Hackers i've encountered so far on Steam is extremly disheartening, it's like from 10 players, half of them hacked their stuff.
On the PlayStation i genuinly dont remember seeing a hacker/cheater in game (im sure there are some), but with trophies there were hackers and cheaters.
I feel like there is not much we can do about the situation, but any sort of argument that could put my mind at ease would be very helpful, this whole thing makes me feel disgusted, because i am an achievement hunter and when i look at someones profile i sometimes think "how can i know that this guy got all achievements in a legit way?" because of these hackers/cheaters i always have my doubts now.


That would be all, hope somebody can help me out with this, i appreciate any sort of help.

Thank you

Welcome to the PC World brother.
Alas, the Microsoft pigs bribed developers to only use their worthless xinput.

You can get a proper PC controller with the analog sticks parallel as they should be, and has a button or switch to toggle between proper directinput and worthless xinput, but in-game icons has to be done either by the developer or with a mod.
Controllers were better before Microdicks started bribing everyone to only support their ugly, worthless, limited xinput junk.

You can get proper controllers fit for PC gaming like the 8BitDo Pro 2 and Scuf Envision Pro, but the software for mapping buttons and setting macros is always really bad. Valve really needs to expand their controller settings menus so you can map extra non-xinput buttons without needing fugly, unintuitive, incompatible crap like icue. Not to mention insultingly calling all detected xinput devices Xbox controllers.
8BitDo Pro 2 looks great, but I'm waiting until they upgrade it with Hall effect triggers for the wireless version.
Dodece 12 Jun @ 7:16am 
The reality is that Sony are the ones that bucked the trend. The XBOX controller is a derivative of the Nintendo 64 controller. Which was a natural outgrowth of the Genesis and Super Nintendo game pads. The better more ergonomic layout has simply won out. After awhile you'll find that the XBOX controller. Is actually the more comfortable of the two options.

As for cheaters the best way to avoid them is to play games they naturally avoid. They prefer to not play games with high price points, that actually require a real time investment, and where the developer has actual paid administrators. Anything where a burned account costs real money to replace, and where there are monthly subscriptions to keep playing. Puts them off rather quickly.

Anything where the game is cheap, the community is expected to self police, and they can get to their antics fast. Those are the games they gravitate towards. Massive multiplayer online games are relatively clean as a result. They tend to be more expensive, they often have subscriptions, have paid administrators, and require a lot of legit play. Just to get to a point where the can cheat.

Lastly think about them like internet trolls. They gravitate towards where there's heat, and where they can make a buck off of cheating. That means older less popular games. Tend to have fewer cheaters to deal with. Basically avoid the usual suspects like Rust, CS GO, Day Z, and so on. If it is popular, cheap, and easy. They'll usually be there in droves.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 30 comments
Per page: 1530 50