Hi Everyone.



I greatly appreciate Steam and the fairness with which it generally has treated developers and consumers. Having such a dominant position on the market and being pioneers in their field they really could have done worse. Almost every company that followed is worse, and I think we're lucky that Steam (and Valve) isn't a publicly traded one for it probably would have been worse.


With that said things getting more and more precarious. Online life and spaces are becoming more and more important in peoples lives. The discussion of rights and duties on these places is central to our future liberty.




Unfair Steam Hub Bans can lead to Steam Community Wide Bans. Even if you didn't break any of Steams rules, the fact that a game developer has the right to ban you from their hub for any arbitrary reason also means that accumulating an undefined and non transparent amount of these bans could lead to your total exclusion from all other Hubs and community services of Steam and of licensed products YOU own.


Unfair Steam Hub Bans as I'm interested in are bans that either the result of posts that would not result in any sanction from official-Steam-support in hubs such as these OR bans whose application is unfair or arbitrary such as a developer banning you for a post you made months or years ago because they are seeking to remove you from all the Community Hubs they control over an other sanction or conflict happening currently or because they are angry over a review.

An example of both is this user: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601902639910785982/?l=swedish&ctp=8#c601902639910799225

They could also be bans in Steam Hubs where you think the moderators were wrong to apply them. When discussing the bans here you can choose to avoid mentioning the actual game and do so in private to me to avoid drama and possible rule violations.




I'm hoping to make a Youtube video on the subject and share it with other digital game/space rights activists such as https://www.youtube.com/@Accursed_Farms and Steam Sentinels.

I'm also hoping to fight such cases either individually or collectively through EU-processes and I'm exploring my options here: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/Sentinels_of_the_Store/discussions/0/597404744772766042/

This concerns the wider issue of a lack of transparency of how Steamwide-Community-Bans are applied and the effect they can have on the consumer and whether or not they are legal if they aren't transparent.



People will come here and accuse you of lying or misrepresenting things. That only those worthy of sanction get sanctioned, that you deserved it, etc.

This form of discourse is common in any rights movement. Focus on each other and on helping each other.

But I will need proof. If you want to be in the video I'll need at least some screenshots and if you'd consider participating further we'd need to share other information later.

Please do not post things here that aren't truly unfair as defined above. It's a serious effort, thank you so much everyone!


Please also note that my two hub bans referenced above in the thread linked are not necessarily unfair. It is the process and lack of transparency of how Steamwide Community Bans are created and how many and what kind of Steam Hub Bans can lead to them which is crucial in the EU-process if it starts. (apparently automated and unaccountable)





Of course what would clearly be unfair is getting a Steamwide-Community-Ban over *Unfair* Steam Hub Bans. That is where we would win on walkover.

Feel free to post here or add me on Steam and send it privately or post on my profile if you feel like it. You can then talk about your situation in more general terms here in the thread if you so wish. Im also on the Steam Sentinel discord: https://discord.gg/Sb3HfrH

Divided we fall, United we stand.