The problem with steam reviews
I feel that the steam reviews left by people have gotten out of hand. I've seen too many cases where a vocal minority review bomb a decent game long after the majority of the player base have moved onto other games. It tends to scew the overall review rates towards the haters unjustly.

There should be a sliding scale where gamers with more game time impact the overall review score more than casual players. A review with more than 60 hours game time behind it should have more weight than a troll that played for less than 30 minutes.

I'm also not a big fan of the thumbs up or down review score that we're limited to. How can you play a game for 120 hours but give it a thumbs down? A game might not be perfect, but if you played a game for that many hours you had at least some fun playing it right?

Please stop bombing a game over performance issues until at least a month after a game or an update has been released. Give the developer at least "some" time to fix their issues before tearing them a new one. Also, if your gpu is more than 3 years old you do NOT have the right to be posting reviews over performance issues on newly released games.
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Just don't pay attention to the reviews. Research the game you want to buy, and if you like what you see, buy it.

I bought a game they massacred on the reviews. I'm enjoying it. It's to each their own.
Zarineth 23 Aug @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Scrye:
I feel that the steam reviews left by people have gotten out of hand. I've seen too many cases where a vocal minority review bomb a decent game long after the majority of the player base have moved onto other games. It tends to scew the overall review rates towards the haters unjustly.

Steam has an anti-review bomb system in place. Reviews like that gets marked as off-topic and don't count to default score.

Originally posted by Scrye:
There should be a sliding scale where gamers with more game time impact the overall review score more than casual players. A review with more than 60 hours game time behind it should have more weight than a troll that played for less than 30 minutes.

I don't think it should. You shouldn't need to eat the whole rotten sandwich to tell others it's rotten.

Originally posted by Scrye:
I'm also not a big fan of the thumbs up or down review score that we're limited to. How can you play a game for 120 hours but give it a thumbs down? A game might not be perfect, but if you played a game for that many hours you had at least some fun playing it right?
That contradicts your previous point and no. You can spend 1000+ hours in a game and still find it hard to recommend. For this or another reason.

Originally posted by Scrye:
Please stop bombing a game over performance issues until at least a month after a game or an update has been released. Give the developer at least "some" time to fix their issues before tearing them a new one. Also, if your gpu is more than 3 years old you do NOT have the right to be posting reviews over performance issues on newly released games.
That I would partially agree. Not the "let devs fix issues" part, because there shouldn't be issues in the first place. And reviews can be updated after the issue is fixed. I can agree though, that people shouldn't base the review on the poor performance if their device is at fault, and not the game.
Scamdiver 23 Aug @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by Zarineth:
Steam has an anti-review bomb system in place. Reviews like that gets marked as off-topic and don't count to default score.
Would be great if it worked in the opposite direction too
Zarineth 23 Aug @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Scamdiver:
Originally posted by Zarineth:
Steam has an anti-review bomb system in place. Reviews like that gets marked as off-topic and don't count to default score.
Would be great if it worked in the opposite direction too
It probalbly does, but I can't assess it, as I don't have enough information. Also it's pretty rare for users to spam positive reviews.
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Scamdiver 23 Aug @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Scrye:
How can you play a game for 120 hours but give it a thumbs down? A game might not be perfect, but if you played a game for that many hours you had at least some fun playing it right?
Grind, friends (everything is fun with friends), Q to enter the game.


Originally posted by Scrye:
Please stop bombing a game over performance issues until at least a month after a game or an update has been released. Give the developer at least "some" time to fix their issues before tearing them a new one. Also, if your gpu is more than 3 years old you do NOT have the right to be posting reviews over performance issues on newly released games.
I mean it's not like these games are free. We can tolerate such things sometimes, but we are not obliged.

I agree that if hardware/settings don't meet requirements performance complaints are off.
But it has nothing to do with age.
miakisfan 23 Aug @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Scrye:
I feel that the steam reviews left by people have gotten out of hand. I've seen too many cases where a vocal minority review bomb a decent game long after the majority of the player base have moved onto other games. It tends to scew the overall review rates towards the haters unjustly.

There should be a sliding scale where gamers with more game time impact the overall review score more than casual players. A review with more than 60 hours game time behind it should have more weight than a troll that played for less than 30 minutes.

I'm also not a big fan of the thumbs up or down review score that we're limited to. How can you play a game for 120 hours but give it a thumbs down? A game might not be perfect, but if you played a game for that many hours you had at least some fun playing it right?

Please stop bombing a game over performance issues until at least a month after a game or an update has been released. Give the developer at least "some" time to fix their issues before tearing them a new one. Also, if your gpu is more than 3 years old you do NOT have the right to be posting reviews over performance issues on newly released games.

I'm not going to say every review is a waste of time. There are people out there that either truly love a game or dislike it and put an honest review up.

The problems are the reviews left by people who had unmet expectations or are just sheepling along with those who like or dislike a game.

Example: if you knew a game that you wanted to buy had been changed and is now a Woke/D.E.I. disaster you could simply have not purchased the game. Leaving review bombs is a disgrace.

If people can't figure out what games they like and what is put inside them for themselves there is a serious problem on their end. I don't need someone telling me what I can see for myself through researching the game itself.

If I have an older PC that is on me as well. If I want to play games that require more GPU/CPU power that is on me. I need to get myself a job/better job or a life so I can enjoy games that require a better PC.

I pity these people who simply don't understand how common sense works.
That’s not a good idea.

I don’t need to play a game for 60 hours to know if it’s not for me.

Most people don’t play games they review badly for long, cause you know, they don’t like the game.
Often, issues present themselves in under two hours, which is coincidentally also the refund window. Generally, players with less time in a game will leave negative reviews as a result. If anything, positive reviews with little to no playtime seem far more suspect.

Often, a game changes dramatically at some point later on in its lifecycle, and players with a lot of hours are left with a game they no longer enjoy.

Please stop releasing unfinished games that take months and years to get working properly (if they even get them working properly at all ever) post release, and there will be less performance and optimization based negative reviews.
Scrye 23 Aug @ 4:24pm 
Perhaps the problem with steam reviews then isnt how reviews are tabulated but the kind of people who are leaving the reviews in the first place. Steam suffers from the same issues that all social media platforms suffer from. Anyone can leave a review on steam, be they the good, the bad, the critic, or the troll. How much faith should you put in a steam review then?

Do you trust reviews from more streamline authorities like IGN or Megacritic or do you feel their views have become too tainted by the politics behind the top gaming industries?

Do you prefer reviews from content creators on youtube, twitch or other similar streaming platforms then? It somehow feels more personal when you put that proverbial face behind a review and having that icon status lends more weight to their words since most people follow people that they agree with.

Are steam review even worthwhile then, or are they just the tabloid paper of the review world, good for the trolls and sensational reading, but not for anything of substance? If there is one area I think steam reviews might be good for are reviews on new DLC or updates if only because more established platforms dont tend to post follow-ups reviews on old games.
Originally posted by Scrye:
I feel that the steam reviews left by people have gotten out of hand. I've seen too many cases where a vocal minority review bomb a decent game long after the majority of the player base have moved onto other games. It tends to scew the overall review rates towards the haters unjustly.
And this is why I and most other users i believe, keep the Review bomb filter on.

Originally posted by Scrye:
There should be a sliding scale where gamers with more game time impact the overall review score more than casual players. A review with more than 60 hours game time behind it should have more weight than a troll that played for less than 30 minutes.
That just makes it easier to bomb.. Not hard to just idle a game.

Originally posted by Scrye:
I'm also not a big fan of the thumbs up or down review score that we're limited to. How can you play a game for 120 hours but give it a thumbs down? A game might not be perfect, but if you played a game for that many hours you had at least some fun playing it right?
Well fior one recent changes to the game may have soured the experience for the player. Remember games aren't Static. They change with updates. Heck sometimes a change in the community can do the same thing. In multiplayer game the community has a big impact on experience and if the community becomes toxic over time well people will sour to the experience.

There's also the fact that it's possible to like a game and not recommend it. The human mind is capable of such nuance. I love "meet the feebles" but I wouldn't openly recommend it.

Originally posted by Scrye:
Please stop bombing a game over performance issues until at least a month after a game or an update has been released.
Why?
If the game's gonna release and charge money then consumers are right to complain about the game meeting perfectly reasonable expectations, like running smoothly


Originally posted by Scrye:
Give the developer at least "some" time to fix their issues before tearing them a new one. Also, if your gpu is more than 3 years old you do NOT have the right to be posting reviews over performance issues on newly released games.
Nope. The time to fix those things was before they released. Letting some devs get away with it basically is a middle finger to devs that actually took the time to do so,
Lunar Fang 23 Aug @ 10:00pm 
The bigger issue is having to be told to decide for yourself. Read reviews, but don't take them as gospel and make up your own mind.
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