that's a strange analogy

Originally posted by adrian:

it does absolutely nothing

Yeah... you mentioned that already
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/730/discussions/0/576014347723104511/#c576014347723108431

And based on how desperate you seem to be to convince people otherwise I am guessing several of your friends have bans. Unfortunately that is something they will simply need to be fine with and you posting here nor denying that will change it.

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

Originally posted by adrian:

it does absolutely nothing

And based on how desperate you seem to be to convince people otherwise I am guessing several of your friends have bans. Unfortunately that is something they will simply need to be fine with and you posting here nor denying that will change it.

what?

im saying this because there are so many hackers on cs2 and tf2 roaming the game without proper punishment

no idea why you think people i know have been VAC banned

Originally posted by nauseic:

that's a strange analogy

but a true one sadly

remember that tf2 bots needed to be banned manually

Originally posted by adrian:

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

And based on how desperate you seem to be to convince people otherwise I am guessing several of your friends have bans. Unfortunately that is something they will simply need to be fine with and you posting here nor denying that will change it.

what?

im saying this because there are so many hackers on cs2 and tf2 roaming the game without proper punishment

no idea why you think people i know have been VAC banned

For the very same reason why you believe Vac does not work, speculation, however I can see evidence of Vac working, in this case the very forum you are posting on has topic after topic of those vac banned yet you disregarded it in order to give some substance to your post.

I on the other hand feel you have friends with bans, there is a way for you to disprove that however that is tbd. For the time being you'll simply need to provide something claiming Vac does not work.

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

For the time being you'll simply need to provide something claiming Vac does not work.

tf2 is a living example of horrible anti cheat

it used VAC

people were BEGGING for the anti cheat to be fixed for years and nothing happened

and when the bots did get banned, they were manual bans, not VAC

MANUAL

Dead pigeons are more useful than VAC

You may want to read up on how VAC works. Also, not everyone who is better than you, is cheating. Shocking, I know.


Valve cannot fix people.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/9/4846392474904201492/#c4846392474904308685

#FixSociety

Until you eradicate the human predilection to gain any advantage at any cost, there will always be cheaters, liars and thieves.

Cheating and catching cheaters in any online game is always a game of cat and mouse that never ends.

This is how VAC works.

A cheat that is known to VAC is detected almost instantly. The account is then flagged for a ban. The application of the ban is what is delayed for the reason here:

It should be noted that VAC employs the use of delayed bans in order to disrupt the development process of cheats - a ban imposed today may have been the result of a cheat detected by VAC two weeks previously.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/


A random timer is probably set for the delay, when that timer runs out...ban is applied.

You do not want instant bans, unless you want even more cheaters. Instant bans would help cheaters and cheat developers by letting them know exactly what was detected and when.




Also, VAC is always updated. Take a guess as to why those updated aren't made public.

Originally posted by adrian:

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

And based on how desperate you seem to be to convince people otherwise I am guessing several of your friends have bans. Unfortunately that is something they will simply need to be fine with and you posting here nor denying that will change it.

what?

im saying this because there are so many hackers on cs2 and tf2 roaming the game without proper punishment

no idea why you think people i know have been VAC banned

VAC bans are delayed.

Originally posted by adrian:

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

For the time being you'll simply need to provide something claiming Vac does not work.

tf2 is a living example of horrible anti cheat

it used VAC

people were BEGGING for the anti cheat to be fixed for years and nothing happened

and when the bots did get banned, they were manual bans, not VAC

MANUAL

Valve doesn't use manual VAC bans.

Can I appeal my VAC ban?
No. VAC bans cannot be appealed. If a VAC ban is issued incorrectly it will be automatically removed after investigation, but Steam Support does not manually remove VAC bans applied to accounts for any reason.

https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#appeal

Also, if it doesn't work, would you like to explain why this forum gets 500+ topics a day from users asking to have their bans removed? By all means, look around or did you not even do that first, before making yet another "VAC doesn't work" thread?

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Also, if it doesn't work, would you like to explain why this forum gets 500+ topics a day from users asking to have their bans removed? By all means, look around or did you not even do that first, before making yet another "VAC doesn't work" thread?

The reason why there are 500+ topics is not because VAC is not working. It's because people are frustrated that cheaters don't get banned. But saying that the anti-cheat doesn't work is wrong. Who we are tho to see behind the curtains?

Originally posted by c0ntrol-:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Also, if it doesn't work, would you like to explain why this forum gets 500+ topics a day from users asking to have their bans removed? By all means, look around or did you not even do that first, before making yet another "VAC doesn't work" thread?

The reason why there are 500+ topics is not because VAC is not working. It's because people are frustrated that cheaters don't get banned. But saying that the anti-cheat doesn't work is wrong. Who we are tho to see behind the curtains?

Read again because you misunderstood. People post here everyday asking to have their VAC bans removed. not because they're frustrated with cheaters.

One more time. VAC bans aren't instant. They are delayed on purpose.

You do not want instant bans, unless you want even more cheaters. Instant bans would help cheaters and cheat developers by letting them know exactly what was detected and when. This would continue until all cheats would be undetectable because the cheat makers would continually update the cheats. Because cheaters would go back to them and say "Hey, this was detected the instant I used it."

Originally posted by adrian:

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

For the time being you'll simply need to provide something claiming Vac does not work.

tf2 is a living example of horrible anti cheat

it used VAC

people were BEGGING for the anti cheat to be fixed for years and nothing happened

and when the bots did get banned, they were manual bans, not VAC

MANUAL

Yet people post here complaining of their bans in tf2, so that nullifies your statement rather quickly.