Overwatch Ban — I want to understand how it is even possible, I Never Cheated
Hi everyone,

I’m here to talk about a permanent Overwatch ban I recently received on my CS2 account. I’m honestly devastated and extremely frustrated, because I know I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong — and I feel like I’ve been judged unfairly by a system that can’t capture the full truth.

Let me be very clear: I have never cheated on CS2 or CS:GO. I’ve been playing Counter-Strike for over two years, with real dedication, effort, and love for the game. I’ve never used any external software, cheats, exploits, or even shady scripts. I’ve never shared my account. I’ve put hundreds of hours into learning maps, improving crosshair placement, callouts, rotations, timings, and teamplay.

About the match that triggered the ban:
I was streaming the game live on Discord, in front of five people who watched the full match.

I was communicating constantly with my teammates, sharing enemy positions, rotations, utility usage, and bomb plans.

I often play the role of in-game leader, giving out structured calls and tracking opponent behavior.

I had good stats in that match, yes — but it was the result of game sense, teamwork, and communication, not cheating.

The real issue? Prejudices and mass reports.
In CS2 and CS:GO, when someone performs above average, especially in solo queue, it’s very common to be accused of cheating. People get salty, toxic, or frustrated and instantly call you a cheater.

What happens next?

You get mass-reported by players who didn’t even watch your POV.

The case goes to Overwatch, and sometimes a few careless or biased reviewers can destroy years of effort with a single click.

There’s no way to explain yourself, to show evidence, or to appeal.

I am not just saying “I didn’t cheat” — I can prove it:
I have Discord stream recordings, voice chat logs, and multiple witnesses.

My teammates can confirm my calls were accurate because of communication, not wallhacks.

I can break down any suspicious moment in slow motion and show that it was based on logic, map knowledge, sound, and info from teammates — not ESP or aimbot.

Why I’m posting this:
I know Valve usually doesn’t reverse Overwatch bans, and that this forum might not change anything officially.
But I’m posting this here for two reasons:

To ask for any advice from players who’ve experienced something similar, or from people who know if a case can still be reviewed by a real human at Valve.

To raise awareness: the current system punishes good players too easily, just because they’re good. If enough people speak up, maybe something will eventually change.

Final words:
All I want is a fair and human review of my gameplay. I’m confident that anyone with integrity who watches my POV with full context will see the truth: I didn’t cheat — I just played well.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to comment or DM me if you’ve been in a similar situation or know how I could get this looked at.
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have money for knife but use free cheats, great work
Game bans are off-topic here.

:gilga:
yimko 13 hours ago 
I watched some of your demos, how is that your timing is always perfect, it seems very weird to only peek when you know someone is coming into your direction even though you don't even have an info about them coming into your way, btw. there is no sound coming from them, they're slow walking, not running. Your ban is permanent, nothing you can do about it.
Last edited by yimko; 13 hours ago
Originally posted by paulc061720:
Hi everyone,

I’m here to talk about a permanent Overwatch ban I recently received on my CS2 account. I’m honestly devastated and extremely frustrated, because I know I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong — and I feel like I’ve been judged unfairly by a system that can’t capture the full truth.

Let me be very clear: I have never cheated on CS2 or CS:GO. I’ve been playing Counter-Strike for over two years, with real dedication, effort, and love for the game. I’ve never used any external software, cheats, exploits, or even shady scripts. I’ve never shared my account. I’ve put hundreds of hours into learning maps, improving crosshair placement, callouts, rotations, timings, and teamplay.

About the match that triggered the ban:
I was streaming the game live on Discord, in front of five people who watched the full match.

I was communicating constantly with my teammates, sharing enemy positions, rotations, utility usage, and bomb plans.

I often play the role of in-game leader, giving out structured calls and tracking opponent behavior.

I had good stats in that match, yes — but it was the result of game sense, teamwork, and communication, not cheating.

The real issue? Prejudices and mass reports.
In CS2 and CS:GO, when someone performs above average, especially in solo queue, it’s very common to be accused of cheating. People get salty, toxic, or frustrated and instantly call you a cheater.

What happens next?

You get mass-reported by players who didn’t even watch your POV.

The case goes to Overwatch, and sometimes a few careless or biased reviewers can destroy years of effort with a single click.

There’s no way to explain yourself, to show evidence, or to appeal.

I am not just saying “I didn’t cheat” — I can prove it:
I have Discord stream recordings, voice chat logs, and multiple witnesses.

My teammates can confirm my calls were accurate because of communication, not wallhacks.

I can break down any suspicious moment in slow motion and show that it was based on logic, map knowledge, sound, and info from teammates — not ESP or aimbot.

Why I’m posting this:
I know Valve usually doesn’t reverse Overwatch bans, and that this forum might not change anything officially.
But I’m posting this here for two reasons:

To ask for any advice from players who’ve experienced something similar, or from people who know if a case can still be reviewed by a real human at Valve.

To raise awareness: the current system punishes good players too easily, just because they’re good. If enough people speak up, maybe something will eventually change.

Final words:
All I want is a fair and human review of my gameplay. I’m confident that anyone with integrity who watches my POV with full context will see the truth: I didn’t cheat — I just played well.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to comment or DM me if you’ve been in a similar situation or know how I could get this looked at.
Mass reports in game doesn't cause a VAC ban or a game ban, if someone gets reported that much their demos will be sent to OW. If you're clean you don't need to worry about your demo getting reviewed by the private investigators hired by Valve since you're clean, in your case it has been proven since you have a game ban, it is not a miracle that someone on the OW. team voted the majority if you're not using an illegal program, it is not a rocket science to figure such thing out, some of your demos is kinda shady since your timing is always 90% accurate minus the acting part.
Last edited by yimko; 13 hours ago
typical ai story, its not being removed
Originally posted by yimko:
Originally posted by paulc061720:
Hi everyone,

I’m here to talk about a permanent Overwatch ban I recently received on my CS2 account. I’m honestly devastated and extremely frustrated, because I know I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong — and I feel like I’ve been judged unfairly by a system that can’t capture the full truth.

Let me be very clear: I have never cheated on CS2 or CS:GO. I’ve been playing Counter-Strike for over two years, with real dedication, effort, and love for the game. I’ve never used any external software, cheats, exploits, or even shady scripts. I’ve never shared my account. I’ve put hundreds of hours into learning maps, improving crosshair placement, callouts, rotations, timings, and teamplay.

About the match that triggered the ban:
I was streaming the game live on Discord, in front of five people who watched the full match.

I was communicating constantly with my teammates, sharing enemy positions, rotations, utility usage, and bomb plans.

I often play the role of in-game leader, giving out structured calls and tracking opponent behavior.

I had good stats in that match, yes — but it was the result of game sense, teamwork, and communication, not cheating.

The real issue? Prejudices and mass reports.
In CS2 and CS:GO, when someone performs above average, especially in solo queue, it’s very common to be accused of cheating. People get salty, toxic, or frustrated and instantly call you a cheater.

What happens next?

You get mass-reported by players who didn’t even watch your POV.

The case goes to Overwatch, and sometimes a few careless or biased reviewers can destroy years of effort with a single click.

There’s no way to explain yourself, to show evidence, or to appeal.

I am not just saying “I didn’t cheat” — I can prove it:
I have Discord stream recordings, voice chat logs, and multiple witnesses.

My teammates can confirm my calls were accurate because of communication, not wallhacks.

I can break down any suspicious moment in slow motion and show that it was based on logic, map knowledge, sound, and info from teammates — not ESP or aimbot.

Why I’m posting this:
I know Valve usually doesn’t reverse Overwatch bans, and that this forum might not change anything officially.
But I’m posting this here for two reasons:

To ask for any advice from players who’ve experienced something similar, or from people who know if a case can still be reviewed by a real human at Valve.

To raise awareness: the current system punishes good players too easily, just because they’re good. If enough people speak up, maybe something will eventually change.

Final words:
All I want is a fair and human review of my gameplay. I’m confident that anyone with integrity who watches my POV with full context will see the truth: I didn’t cheat — I just played well.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to comment or DM me if you’ve been in a similar situation or know how I could get this looked at.
Mass reports in game doesn't cause a VAC ban or a game ban, if someone gets reported that much their demos will be sent to OW. If you're clean you don't need to worry about your demo getting reviewed by the private investigators hired by Valve since you're clean, in your case it has been proven since you have a game ban, it is not a miracle that someone on the OW. team voted the majority if you're not using an illegal program, it is not a rocket science to figure such thing out, some of your demos is kinda shady since your timing is always 90% accurate minus the acting part.


Originally posted by yimko:
Originally posted by paulc061720:
Hi everyone,

I’m here to talk about a permanent Overwatch ban I recently received on my CS2 account. I’m honestly devastated and extremely frustrated, because I know I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong — and I feel like I’ve been judged unfairly by a system that can’t capture the full truth.

Let me be very clear: I have never cheated on CS2 or CS:GO. I’ve been playing Counter-Strike for over two years, with real dedication, effort, and love for the game. I’ve never used any external software, cheats, exploits, or even shady scripts. I’ve never shared my account. I’ve put hundreds of hours into learning maps, improving crosshair placement, callouts, rotations, timings, and teamplay.

About the match that triggered the ban:
I was streaming the game live on Discord, in front of five people who watched the full match.

I was communicating constantly with my teammates, sharing enemy positions, rotations, utility usage, and bomb plans.

I often play the role of in-game leader, giving out structured calls and tracking opponent behavior.

I had good stats in that match, yes — but it was the result of game sense, teamwork, and communication, not cheating.

The real issue? Prejudices and mass reports.
In CS2 and CS:GO, when someone performs above average, especially in solo queue, it’s very common to be accused of cheating. People get salty, toxic, or frustrated and instantly call you a cheater.

What happens next?

You get mass-reported by players who didn’t even watch your POV.

The case goes to Overwatch, and sometimes a few careless or biased reviewers can destroy years of effort with a single click.

There’s no way to explain yourself, to show evidence, or to appeal.

I am not just saying “I didn’t cheat” — I can prove it:
I have Discord stream recordings, voice chat logs, and multiple witnesses.

My teammates can confirm my calls were accurate because of communication, not wallhacks.

I can break down any suspicious moment in slow motion and show that it was based on logic, map knowledge, sound, and info from teammates — not ESP or aimbot.

Why I’m posting this:
I know Valve usually doesn’t reverse Overwatch bans, and that this forum might not change anything officially.
But I’m posting this here for two reasons:

To ask for any advice from players who’ve experienced something similar, or from people who know if a case can still be reviewed by a real human at Valve.

To raise awareness: the current system punishes good players too easily, just because they’re good. If enough people speak up, maybe something will eventually change.

Final words:
All I want is a fair and human review of my gameplay. I’m confident that anyone with integrity who watches my POV with full context will see the truth: I didn’t cheat — I just played well.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to comment or DM me if you’ve been in a similar situation or know how I could get this looked at.
Mass reports in game doesn't cause a VAC ban or a game ban, if someone gets reported that much their demos will be sent to OW. If you're clean you don't need to worry about your demo getting reviewed by the private investigators hired by Valve since you're clean, in your case it has been proven since you have a game ban, it is not a miracle that someone on the OW. team voted the majority if you're not using an illegal program, it is not a rocket science to figure such thing out, some of your demos is kinda shady since your timing is always 90% accurate minus the acting part.
Thanks for your reply.

If it helps clarify, I actually have a full recording of the match, including my live Discord stream with 5 people watching. We were calling positions constantly, coordinating peeks, and simply trying to make plays together. The comms explain every decision and timing — we literally say "peek now", "he's rotating", "hold angle", etc.

It wasn’t magic, it wasn’t cheats — just basic team coordination and prediction, especially at low elo where players often move in very readable patterns.
To be honest, we weren’t even trying hard. It was just one of those rare games where everything worked well, and I had a great team feeding me info.

I’ve got 300 hours on CS, and I’ve never cheated once. I’ve played honestly because I actually enjoy the game — I’ve even spent money on it.
So I ask myself: why would I cheat and risk everything for one good match?

Anyway, I understand there’s nothing I can do about the ban now. I just wanted to leave this message here for clarity and closure.
Thanks for taking the time to read and explain things.
It really was a pleasure playing this game.
Originally posted by yimko:
I watched some of your demos, how is that your timing is always perfect, it seems very weird to only peek when you know someone is coming into your direction even though you don't even have an info about them coming into your way, btw. there is no sound coming from them, they're slow walking, not running. Your ban is permanent, nothing you can do about it.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the demos and share your thoughts.

I totally understand how, without the full context, some actions might look suspicious — especially in low quality GOTV demos where you don’t hear our team comms, don’t see the minimap, and can’t feel the pressure of the round. But that’s exactly why this is frustrating: Overwatch demos don't show the full reality of what happened during the game.

In that specific match:

I was on a live Discord call with 5 teammates, with constant callouts.

We were predicting enemy moves based on timings, common habits, and patterns we saw during the game.

I was not peeking randomly, I was following info like:
“He was short last round,” or “He’s probably lurking again,” or “No noise B, rotate A.”

I know you mentioned slow-walking — but in several rounds, we called that out too based on previous tendencies, timings, and even process of elimination.
It’s not impossible to predict where players are — especially in lower elo, where many players play very predictably.

I’ve been playing CS fairly for over 300 hours, and this was honestly one of the rare games where everything went right — good teammates, good calls, and good timing. I’ve never used cheats, and I wouldn’t risk my account and skins over a few rounds of lucky reads.

I know the ban won’t be lifted, but I just wanted to clarify my side.
Thanks again for the response.
Originally posted by paulc061720:
Hi everyone,

I’m here to talk about a permanent Overwatch ban I recently received on my CS2 account. I’m honestly devastated and extremely frustrated, because I know I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong — and I feel like I’ve been judged unfairly by a system that can’t capture the full truth.

Let me be very clear: I have never cheated on CS2 or CS:GO. I’ve been playing Counter-Strike for over two years, with real dedication, effort, and love for the game. I’ve never used any external software, cheats, exploits, or even shady scripts. I’ve never shared my account. I’ve put hundreds of hours into learning maps, improving crosshair placement, callouts, rotations, timings, and teamplay.

About the match that triggered the ban:
I was streaming the game live on Discord, in front of five people who watched the full match.

I was communicating constantly with my teammates, sharing enemy positions, rotations, utility usage, and bomb plans.

I often play the role of in-game leader, giving out structured calls and tracking opponent behavior.

I had good stats in that match, yes — but it was the result of game sense, teamwork, and communication, not cheating.

The real issue? Prejudices and mass reports.
In CS2 and CS:GO, when someone performs above average, especially in solo queue, it’s very common to be accused of cheating. People get salty, toxic, or frustrated and instantly call you a cheater.

What happens next?

You get mass-reported by players who didn’t even watch your POV.

The case goes to Overwatch, and sometimes a few careless or biased reviewers can destroy years of effort with a single click.

There’s no way to explain yourself, to show evidence, or to appeal.

I am not just saying “I didn’t cheat” — I can prove it:
I have Discord stream recordings, voice chat logs, and multiple witnesses.

My teammates can confirm my calls were accurate because of communication, not wallhacks.

I can break down any suspicious moment in slow motion and show that it was based on logic, map knowledge, sound, and info from teammates — not ESP or aimbot.

Why I’m posting this:
I know Valve usually doesn’t reverse Overwatch bans, and that this forum might not change anything officially.
But I’m posting this here for two reasons:

To ask for any advice from players who’ve experienced something similar, or from people who know if a case can still be reviewed by a real human at Valve.

To raise awareness: the current system punishes good players too easily, just because they’re good. If enough people speak up, maybe something will eventually change.

Final words:
All I want is a fair and human review of my gameplay. I’m confident that anyone with integrity who watches my POV with full context will see the truth: I didn’t cheat — I just played well.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to comment or DM me if you’ve been in a similar situation or know how I could get this looked at.

1 game ban on record | Info
0 day(s) since last ban

Whole long story, this is a community only forum and not a appeal forum. Gamebans for CS2 can be given for one of a few things and its permanent

gameban cs2 - https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/4E54-0B96-D0A4-1557

Why are game bans issued?
Game bans in Counter-Strike 2 are issued when a player attempts to circumvent or interfere with game systems to the detriment of others.

Examples include:
Cheating.
Manipulation of matchmaking rank by deranking or falsely increasing your Skill Group or Counter-Strike Rating.
Botting and/or automation.
Intentionally interfering with the normal operation of game servers or other players.
Game Bans for all of the above are not removed by Steam Support.

Can you tell me why I was game banned?
No. We do not disclose the reason for your game ban.

Whether you were using cheat software, automating matchmaking, or abusing matchmaking the reason a game ban was issued is not shared with users.

Can I appeal my game ban?
No. Game bans cannot be appealed and are not removed from accounts.

I was not using my account when it was game banned. Can the ban be removed?
No. Regardless of who was using the account at the time the ban was issued, game bans are permanent and are not removed.

Can I move my Counter-Strike 2 items to a different account?
No. Counter-Strike 2 items cannot be moved from a game banned account to a different account.

Can I upload content to the Counter-Strike 2 Workshop and Community with a Counter-Strike 2 game ban?
No. You cannot upload new content, such as guides, artwork, or Workshop items to the Counter-Strike 2 Community if you have been game banned.

Can I vote on Counter-Strike 2 Steam Workshop content with a Counter-Strike 2 game ban?
No. Counter-Strike 2 game bans prevent voting within the Counter-Strike 2 Workshop.
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Uni 11 hours ago 
In game leading, calling out positions and timing.. 300 hours.. Yep.
geek
1) You seem to have spent a lot of time writing this completely unnecessary and pointless excuse. This discussion board is for discussion of the VAC system.

2) The Game Ban (If indeed for CS2) is permanent and will not be removed if applied correctly.

3) You can not prove that you did not cause "disruption" to the gameplay (either majorly such as cheating or multiple minor counts) - It is not necessary for you to do so., The onus is on OW to provide evidence of guilt. OW system demands unanimous evidence beyond all reasonable doubt of evidence that such was present. Without this overhelmingly unlikely scenario which always errs on side of caution and often allows less-blatant cheats to get away, accounts will nto receive a permanent ban.

4) As for requesting a fair review by a human - This would solve nothing. You have already had dozens of humans reviewing gameplay and overwhelmingly there was unanimous decision that misconduct occurred, whether single major infraction or multiple minor instances. To add one more review to the already unanimous verdict would not change the outcome and is unnecessary.

5) All this information is publically available and recommended you read and understand before playing on CS2 or other games supporting the Game Ban and VAC systems.
Originally posted by paulc061720:
Originally posted by yimko:
I watched some of your demos, how is that your timing is always perfect, it seems very weird to only peek when you know someone is coming into your direction even though you don't even have an info about them coming into your way, btw. there is no sound coming from them, they're slow walking, not running. Your ban is permanent, nothing you can do about it.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the demos and share your thoughts.

I totally understand how, without the full context, some actions might look suspicious — especially in low quality GOTV demos where you don’t hear our team comms, don’t see the minimap, and can’t feel the pressure of the round. But that’s exactly why this is frustrating: Overwatch demos don't show the full reality of what happened during the game.

In that specific match:

I was on a live Discord call with 5 teammates, with constant callouts.

We were predicting enemy moves based on timings, common habits, and patterns we saw during the game.

I was not peeking randomly, I was following info like:
“He was short last round,” or “He’s probably lurking again,” or “No noise B, rotate A.”

I know you mentioned slow-walking — but in several rounds, we called that out too based on previous tendencies, timings, and even process of elimination.
It’s not impossible to predict where players are — especially in lower elo, where many players play very predictably.

I’ve been playing CS fairly for over 300 hours, and this was honestly one of the rare games where everything went right — good teammates, good calls, and good timing. I’ve never used cheats, and I wouldn’t risk my account and skins over a few rounds of lucky reads.

I know the ban won’t be lifted, but I just wanted to clarify my side.
Thanks again for the response.
Ban is permanent. STOP posting walls of text and read:

1 game ban on record | Info
0 day(s) since last ban


VAC ban?

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No.

The account has a GAME ban.

Try looking at your profile. That's what matters. What it says in game does not matter at all.

Game bans have nothing to do with VAC or this forum.

Users are responsible for the security of the account and all activity on the account.



Reasons are listed below. Be sure to read EVERYTHING....even the information contained within the links. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER REASONS BESIDES CHEATING.



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Bans are delayed from the time of the detection to the time that the ban is actually applied. What you were doing when the ban was applied, is irrelevant.

The ban is permanent.

It will not be removed.

Counter-Strike 2 game bans are permanent, non-negotiable, and cannot be removed by Steam Support.

Can I appeal my game ban?
No. Game bans cannot be appealed and are not removed from accounts.

Why are game bans issued?
Game bans in Counter-Strike 2 are issued when a player attempts to circumvent or interfere with game systems to the detriment of others.

Examples include: <<<<-------
Cheating.
Manipulation of matchmaking rank by deranking or falsely increasing your Skill Group or Counter-Strike Rating.
Botting and/or automation.
Intentionally interfering with the normal operation of game servers or other players.

Game Bans for all of the above are not removed by Steam Support.

https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/4E54-0B96-D0A4-1557
https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/46DB-4CEC-F7E9-49E5

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