Some thoughts on Trust Factor and my experience
So yeah, I was a bit of a "bad boy" — reacting impulsively to toxic behavior, mostly verbal abuse. But the Trust Factor system really punishes you for your past, even when you're trying to change.

The problem is, you can play a great match, behave perfectly, top the scoreboard… and still get reported by someone on the other team who thinks you're cheating. That’s how you end up with a 14-day ban, even though you did nothing wrong.

It's kinda like this: first you get a speeding ticket. Then a fine for bad parking. Your neighbor calls the cops because your music's too loud. Someone sees you walking home late from a party and suddenly the police link you to a crime you never committed. You end up in court, and they say: “Your Trust Factor is terrible… life sentence!” Absurd? Yeah, that’s how this system feels.

And the worst part? Valve has done basically nothing to fix problems with real cheaters using wh aim etc, even after all these years of CS existing. Shame, really.
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Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC or this forum.
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC or this forum.
Actually both vac and trust factor are connectecd same as ur ignorance.
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC or this forum.
Actually both vac and trust factor are connectecd same as ur ignorance.
They are not connected. You need to read up. With a 17 year old account, you should know this by now.
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
It's kinda like this: first you get a speeding ticket. Then a fine for bad parking. Your neighbor calls the cops because your music's too loud. Someone sees you walking home late from a party and suddenly the police link you to a crime you never committed. You end up in court, and they say: “Your Trust Factor is terrible… life sentence!” Absurd? Yeah, that’s how this system feels.

That happens only if you are an immigrant or black.

(And in addition you could get shot dead instead of jailed for life)
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
Actually both vac and trust factor are connectecd same as ur ignorance.
They are not connected. You need to read up. With a 17 year old account, you should know this by now.

Lol xD As 21 years steam user u should know that whole valve anticheat ecosystem contains
1.Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC)
2.VAC Live
3.Overwatch
4. Steam Trust Factor
5. Steam Guard
Components of this system are deeply connected and work together in an integrated fashion. They form a comprehensive ecosystem rather than isolated tools.

Before you pretend to be a bored erudite, educate yourself better.
Last edited by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦; 19 Jul @ 9:15am
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
They are not connected. You need to read up. With a 17 year old account, you should know this by now.

Lol xD As 21 years steam user u should know that whole valve anticheat ecosystem contains
1.Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC)
2.VAC Live
3.Overwatch
4. Steam Trust Factor
Components of this system are deeply connected and work together in an integrated fashion. They form a comprehensive ecosystem rather than isolated tools.

Before you pretend to be a bored erudite, educate yourself better.

Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC...
Originally posted by Beardface31:
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:

Lol xD As 21 years steam user u should know that whole valve anticheat ecosystem contains
1.Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC)
2.VAC Live
3.Overwatch
4. Steam Trust Factor
Components of this system are deeply connected and work together in an integrated fashion. They form a comprehensive ecosystem rather than isolated tools.

Before you pretend to be a bored erudite, educate yourself better.

Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC...


It does.... cuz valve's game security ecosystem is deeply connected xD VAC and VAC Live directly should detect and ban cheaters, which severely lowers a player's Steam Trust Factor, a reputation system that then segregates them into different matchmaking groups, while Steam Guard and other restrictions provide additional deterrence and consequences.

You can't talk about one without another if u would like to refer to situation i posted in the beginning instead of addressing the merits, which you prefer not to do.
No its not VAC related and off-topic here.

:gilga:
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
Originally posted by Beardface31:

Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC...


It does.... cuz valve's game security ecosystem is deeply connected xD VAC and VAC Live directly should detect and ban cheaters, which severely lowers a player's Steam Trust Factor, a reputation system that then segregates them into different matchmaking groups, while Steam Guard and other restrictions provide additional deterrence and consequences.

You can't talk about one without another if u would like to refer to situation i posted in the beginning instead of addressing the merits, which you prefer not to do.

Again, it does not.
mortexo 19 Jul @ 9:18am 
Używasz AI leszczu, to niech ci odpowie ...
Originally posted by Beardface31:
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:


It does.... cuz valve's game security ecosystem is deeply connected xD VAC and VAC Live directly should detect and ban cheaters, which severely lowers a player's Steam Trust Factor, a reputation system that then segregates them into different matchmaking groups, while Steam Guard and other restrictions provide additional deterrence and consequences.

You can't talk about one without another if u would like to refer to situation i posted in the beginning instead of addressing the merits, which you prefer not to do.

Again, it does not.

Your assertion, "Again, it does not," without any supporting arguments or counter-evidence, is akin to declaring the sky isn't blue without looking up.
The interconnectedness of Valve's systems isn't a matter of opinion, but a functional design where each component influences and reinforces the others. To argue otherwise is to ignore how a complex machine operates as a whole, rather than as disparate parts. Just as a car's engine, transmission, and brakes are distinct but fundamentally reliant on each other for the vehicle to function as intended, so too are VAC, VAC Live, and Trust Factor interwoven in creating a robust and multi-layered defense.
Dismissing a claim without addressing its substance doesn't invalidate the claim; it merely highlights a reluctance to engage with the actual discussion. If you wish to challenge the described ecosystem, I encourage you to present specific points or evidence that demonstrate how these systems operate in isolation. Otherwise, your simple negation offers no productive contribution to understanding Valve's sophisticated approach to game integrity.
You'd be wrong to assume trust factor and VAC are related.
Originally posted by Beardface31:
You'd be wrong to assume trust factor and VAC are related.
You choose to be wrong, thats ok.
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
Originally posted by Beardface31:
You'd be wrong to assume trust factor and VAC are related.
You choose to be wrong, thats ok.
No that choice is yours.


https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/9/3004430610121389101/#c3004430610121397016
Originally posted by 𝙇𝙑🅳︎𝗦:
So yeah, I was a bit of a "bad boy" — reacting impulsively to toxic behavior, mostly verbal abuse. But the Trust Factor system really punishes you for your past, even when you're trying to change.

The problem is, you can play a great match, behave perfectly, top the scoreboard… and still get reported by someone on the other team who thinks you're cheating. That’s how you end up with a 14-day ban, even though you did nothing wrong.

It's kinda like this: first you get a speeding ticket. Then a fine for bad parking. Your neighbor calls the cops because your music's too loud. Someone sees you walking home late from a party and suddenly the police link you to a crime you never committed. You end up in court, and they say: “Your Trust Factor is terrible… life sentence!” Absurd? Yeah, that’s how this system feels.

And the worst part? Valve has done basically nothing to fix problems with real cheaters using wh aim etc, even after all these years of CS existing. Shame, really.

right off the bat, you got a global cooldown and not a ban. Bans are permanent. But as per your statement, sounds like it might be changing to a gameban. But anyway, instead of looking for excuses or some kind of reasoning on why you shouldn't get a ban/cooldown or get out of a ban/cooldown or even regarding your "trust factor" then you are pretty much barking up the wrong tree here.

global cooldown - https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/7580-7BDB-1C9A-AC67
trust fator - https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/00EF-D679-C76A-C185
Last edited by JacquesPatat; 20 Jul @ 2:10am
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