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Delta_135 19 Sep, 2015 @ 5:25am
Bonemergeing?
I've been working on a small project involving the tf2 models and so far everything has worked out well. But now i wanna add bone merge support for the tf2 items and i've run into a odd problem:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=520801790

The feet seem to attach just fine but the knees, not so much. Any idea why, i took all the "$Attachment"s form decompiled Demo qc (i used crowbar Version 0.27.0.0) and the bone names match, although i am using a edited tf2 skeleton (but using the normal one has the same effect).

.QC:
$modelname "ArmsAndLegs/demo_legs.mdl" $body RMesh "demo_legs" $surfaceprop "flesh" $cdmaterials "models/effects" $CDMaterials "models\player\demo\" $CDMaterials "" $TextureGroup "skinfamilies" { { "demoman_red.vmt" "demoman_head_red.vmt" "eyeball_r.vmt" } { "demoman_blue.vmt" "demoman_head_blue.vmt" "eyeball_r.vmt" } { "demoman_red_invun.vmt" "demoman_head_red_invun.vmt" "eyeball_invun.vmt" } { "demoman_blue_invun.vmt" "demoman_head_blue_invun.vmt" "eyeball_invun.vmt" } { "demoman_red_zombie_alphatest.vmt" "demoman_head_zombie.vmt" "eyeball_zombie.vmt" } { "demoman_blue_zombie_alphatest.vmt" "demoman_head_zombie.vmt" "eyeball_zombie.vmt" } { "demoman_red_zombie_invun.vmt" "demoman_head_red_invun.vmt" "eyeball_invun.vmt" } { "demoman_blue_zombie_invun.vmt" "demoman_head_blue_invun.vmt" "eyeball_invun.vmt" } } $bodygroup "feet" { studio "Demo_feet.smd" blank } $bodygroup "flap" { studio "Demo_flap.smd" blank } $bodygroup "left pack" { studio "Demo_pack_l.smd" blank } $bodygroup "right pack" { studio "Demo_pack_r.smd" blank } $bodygroup "left foot armor" { studio "Demo_footArmor_l.smd" blank } $bodygroup "right foot armor" { studio "Demo_footArmor_r.smd" blank } $bodygroup "smile" { blank studio "smile.smd" } $Attachment "back_lower" "bip_spine_0" 0 0 0 rotate 0 0 0 $Attachment "foot_L" "bip_foot_L" 0 0 0 rotate 0 0 0 $Attachment "foot_R" "bip_foot_R" 0 0 0 rotate 0 0 0 $Attachment "bread_heel_l" "bip_foot_L" -0.09 3.1 -1.04 rotate 21.21 79.99 162.57 $Attachment "bread_butt" "bip_hip_R" -0.26 2.25 5.4 rotate -46.72 156.23 110.88 $Attachment "back_lower" "bip_spine_0" 0 0 0 rotate 0 0 0 $definebone "bip_spine_0" "" 0.000000 1.560994 52.226974 -0.000000 0.000000 -112.202155 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 $definebone "bip_pelvis" "bip_spine_0" 0.000000 4.063065 1.073650 -0.000000 0.000000 14.801906 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 $definebone "bip_hip_L" "bip_pelvis" 6.731913 3.305546 -0.598954 -11.417672 -4.222813 -177.551890 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000002 0.000000 0.000001 $definebone "bip_knee_L" "bip_hip_L" -0.000012 -19.139114 0.000001 -0.000001 -0.000115 18.149814 0.000001 0.000000 -0.000000 -0.000001 0.000001 -0.000001 $definebone "bip_foot_L" "bip_knee_L" 0.000016 -19.653952 -0.000017 1.596947 -3.058736 -61.520034 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000001 -0.000001 0.000002 $definebone "bip_toe_L" "bip_foot_L" -0.000006 -6.456727 -0.000003 0.000057 -0.000001 -40.972038 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000002 0.000004 $definebone "bip_hip_R" "bip_pelvis" -6.731910 3.305496 -0.598959 11.417217 4.222700 2.448250 0.000000 -0.000004 0.000000 0.000001 0.000000 0.000001 $definebone "bip_knee_R" "bip_hip_R" -0.000018 19.139193 -0.000004 0.000517 0.000058 18.149814 -0.000001 0.000000 0.000000 0.000002 -0.000000 -0.000005 $definebone "bip_foot_R" "bip_knee_R" 0.000001 19.653919 -0.000010 1.596949 -3.058907 -61.520034 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000008 $definebone "bip_toe_R" "bip_foot_R" 0.000006 6.456724 -0.000001 -0.000114 -0.000057 -40.971922 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000005 $definebone "bip_hippouch_0" "bip_pelvis" -8.530733 -0.244537 -1.908026 -9.467382 98.147559 -5.577286 0.000000 -0.000001 0.000000 0.000001 -0.000001 0.000000 $definebone "bip_crotchflap_0" "bip_pelvis" -0.000371 1.074482 -6.630975 -1.346144 90.080115 -179.255612 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000001 -0.000000 0.000000 $BoneMerge "bip_pelvis" $BoneMerge "bip_spine_3" $BoneMerge "bip_hip_L" $BoneMerge "bip_knee_L" $BoneMerge "bip_hip_R" $BoneMerge "bip_knee_R" $BoneMerge "bip_foot_L" $BoneMerge "bip_foot_R" $BoneMerge "bip_toe_L" $BoneMerge "bip_toe_R" $BoneMerge "mvm" $collisionjoints "Demo_legs_PHYS.smd" { $mass 100.0 $inertia 3.00 $damping 0.00 $rotdamping 1.00 $rootbone "bip_pelvis" $jointinertia "bip_crotchflap_0" 0.00 $jointdamping "bip_crotchflap_0" 0.01 $jointrotdamping "bip_crotchflap_0" 1.00 $jointconstrain "bip_crotchflap_0" x limit -10.00 10.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_crotchflap_0" y limit -180.00 10.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_crotchflap_0" z limit 0.00 0.00 0.00 $jointmassbias "bip_hip_r" 0.80 $jointdamping "bip_hip_r" 4.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hip_r" x limit -80.00 45.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hip_r" y limit -50.00 30.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hip_r" z limit -70.00 70.00 0.00 $jointmassbias "bip_knee_r" 1.20 $jointrotdamping "bip_knee_r" 3.00 $jointconstrain "bip_knee_r" x limit 0.00 125.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_knee_r" y limit -70.00 80.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_knee_r" z limit 0.00 0.00 0.00 $jointmassbias "bip_foot_r" 0.80 $jointrotdamping "bip_foot_r" 7.00 $jointconstrain "bip_foot_r" x limit -25.00 55.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_foot_r" y limit -20.00 25.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_foot_r" z limit -25.00 30.00 0.00 $jointmassbias "bip_hip_l" 0.80 $jointdamping "bip_hip_l" 4.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hip_l" x limit -45.00 80.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hip_l" y limit -50.00 30.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hip_l" z limit -70.00 70.00 0.00 $jointmassbias "bip_knee_l" 1.20 $jointrotdamping "bip_knee_l" 3.00 $jointconstrain "bip_knee_l" x limit 0.00 125.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_knee_l" y limit -70.00 80.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_knee_l" z limit 0.00 0.00 0.00 $jointmassbias "bip_foot_l" 0.80 $jointrotdamping "bip_foot_l" 7.00 $jointconstrain "bip_foot_l" x limit -25.00 55.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_foot_l" y limit -20.00 25.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_foot_l" z limit -25.00 30.00 0.00 $jointinertia "bip_hippouch_0" 0.00 $jointdamping "bip_hippouch_0" 0.01 $jointrotdamping "bip_hippouch_0" 1.25 $jointconstrain "bip_hippouch_0" x limit -20.00 20.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hippouch_0" y limit -70.00 70.00 0.00 $jointconstrain "bip_hippouch_0" z limit -15.00 115.00 0.00 } $sequence ragdoll "Demo_legs_PHYS.smd"
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Zappy 19 Sep, 2015 @ 5:29am 
Are you basing the QC and mesh files off the ones included with the Source SDK?
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Delta_135 19 Sep, 2015 @ 5:34am 
im kinda using a mix of both.
which is bad right?
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Zappy 19 Sep, 2015 @ 6:05am 
Using decompiled files: Acceptable.
Using the Source SDK's files: Great, at least with a little tweaking, as they're outdated.
Using a mix: Probably a bad idea.
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Delta_135 19 Sep, 2015 @ 6:30am 
ok i exchanged the SDK skeleton with the decompiled skeleton and this happend:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=520919120

you think the problem is the mesh or qc?

EDIT: My fault forgot the phys mesh but now im getting a "ERROR: Rotation constraint on bone "bip_hippouch_0" which has no parent!!!". yet in blender it has.

EDIT 2: turns out it was the phys mesh that caused the problem (i screwed up the weight paint) all good now

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=520928261
Last edited by Delta_135; 19 Sep, 2015 @ 6:48am
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Zappy 19 Sep, 2015 @ 6:52am 
So you fixed it now?
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Delta_135 19 Sep, 2015 @ 7:36am 
yup thanks for the help
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xdshot 19 Sep, 2015 @ 1:10pm 
You could add the same $bonemerge as of demoman into item's .qc, so the item will merge with demoman's reference.
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