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Chaos 23 Mar, 2021 @ 1:46pm
Catch-up thread
Since I am unable to answer your questions in Colossal Order's forum or workshop, please know I've been reading your questions. If you're just joining, please find below my answer to your latest query, in no particular order, so we can get up to speed quickly:

@alborzka - see What's happening thread

@asterisk11231 - you are incorrect. Load order problems are bugs in the various mods. Neither game nor steam promised any particular order, so any mod that makes assumptions about its load order is a bug waiting to happen.

@Angius - Switching to Harmony redesigned is as simple as unsubscribing the old harmony and subscribing Harmony redesigned, but please read Known Issues, How to react to missing dependencies, and know that Harmony redesigned will report mod bugs that the old harmony ignores. Many of these bugs are not mod breaking, and should be fixed in time as mod authors become aware of them and clean up their mods.

@fahlker - There is one testimonial that Harmony Redesigned works great on Mac, but more feedback is wanted. I am unable to test on Mac.

@Sparktite, @Useless Noodle, @E6GSY, @balmerjd, @pankajsethi87 - your missing dependencies are not new, but are newly reported (old harmony just doesn't care). See How to react to missing dependencies for an explanation, and generally you should complain to the respective mod authors for the loose ends, but your game should not be any worse due to the missing dependencies than if you used the old Harmony. These have problems that have long plagued the workshop, but I elected to surface them with Harmony redesigned, in the hope that they will be cleaned up and the quality of the workshop will improve.

@Leonhard.oiler - The Harmony Report should contain a one line summary of these "Prohibited global UnpatchAll()" errors. The detailed technical description[github.com] explains what they mean, but in short, Harmony Redesigned stopped EmployOvereducatedWorkers from doing something illegal due to a programming error in that mod. You should report the bug to the EmployOvereducatedWorkers author, but the issue should be handled in your game. The harm it would have caused was blocked by Harmony redesigned.

@YuLun - MOM suffers from the same "Prohibited global UnpatchAll()" issue as above, but otherwise it should be completely compatible with Harmony redesigned. If you do see any thing strange in MOM please open a thread.

@YuLun - LoadingScreenMod shows some exceptions related to loading custom content that I haven't seen before. Would you mind posting the full log file? The Harmony report only includes a one line summary per exception.



I know there may have been more answers or feedback, but in their hateful haste, Felix Schmidt (boformer) and his employer, Colossal Order expunged every post I made or thread I created in the CSL forums or workshop in its entirety, including responses from other people. Please post your question here in this group, again. I apologize sincerely for the inconvenience.
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OldBlueBen 23 Mar, 2021 @ 6:21pm 
"How to react to missing dependencies" addressed all of my current concerns save one: The mod Sharp Textures appears to be missing one "system.Xml [4.0.0]" as well as the benign mscorlib. Is the system.xml dependency benign also?
Chaos 23 Mar, 2021 @ 6:24pm 
Yes, system.xml should be on the benign list also, thank you for the feedback.

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OldBlueBen 23 Mar, 2021 @ 6:30pm 
Ok thx. Further, should the mod Express Bus Services (IPT2 Plugin) also be unsubbed and resubbed for load order issues?
Chaos 23 Mar, 2021 @ 6:47pm 
If it shows with "TypeLoadException" on the Harmony report, then yes. Please let me know if it does, so I can add it to "known issues". Much appreciated, Ben
OldBlueBen 23 Mar, 2021 @ 7:05pm 
Er, I already unsubbed and resubbed it just in case. So I cannot know how it shows on the report now I think. Oops. Bad Igor.
Chaos 23 Mar, 2021 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by OldBlueBen:
Er, I already unsubbed and resubbed it just in case. So I cannot know how it shows on the report now I think. Oops. Bad Igor.
No problem. I will test it.

I know someone previously posted an addendum to my list of known issues, but it was lost when Colossal deleted the thread, before I could save a copy.

If that person would be kind enough to re-post the list of additional problematic mods, it would help me a lot. Thank you in advance.
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