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SW Trains Upward Shifted Bodies.
This bug seems to be rather new. Every single SW train has this issue where the main body part is slightly shifted upwards. And when I say every train I mean EVERY train is affected by this, but the only one that doesn't seem to be affected is the Mini Trains. If I recall, there was a similar bug that occurred back when the SW Base was released, where both the Old and New X12 trains front car was heavily shifted upwards (not sure if you guys remember that). So this seems to be a returning bug. I've done a couple tests and found out that trains that don't have bogies can't be driven at all. Since their body is shifted upwards, that means the wheels are shifted upwards enough to a point where they aren't touching the rails and therefore preventing the trains from driving. Like I said, this only happens to trains that don't have bogies. Trains that do have bogies such as the Ludmilla, the Rail Car pack, and the T-7 pack such as the long T-7 passenger cars are able to drive just fine, but the shifted bodies are still noticeable as seen from the screenshots I have taken and showcased below. And yes I've taken a screenshot of every single train to show you that all of them are being affected by this issue. To show you how I noticed this bug, you'll see in the screenshots that the trains without bogies are lifted up a bit and are not the touching the rails, ones with doors are slightly sunken into the main body part which reveals a gap above them, and ones with bogies show that the bogies aren't making contact with the main body part and look like they aren't attached as shown by a gap between them.

Diesel Ludmilla:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397902274
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397902403

Automated Tram:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397902467
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397902549

Crane Train:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397902738

Diesel Henschel:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397902919
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397903098

T-7 V1 Loco:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397903193

T-7 V2 Loco:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397903619

T-7 Short Car:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397903864
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397903751

T-7 Long Car:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904003
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904164

ST-3 Tram:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904295
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904442

Note: The ST-3 Tram is lifted but it's not lifted to a degree where it can't drive. It's still drivable.


Passenger Car from the Rail Car pack:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904744
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904849

Boxcar Car from the Rail Car pack:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904959
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397905079

Car Carrier from the Rail Car pack:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397905254
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397905401

Note: Although the Car Carrier has no doors, the extendable platforms are slightly lowered instead of being in the center.


Tram:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906108
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906196

New X12:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906344
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906473

Old X12:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906607
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906713

Western Steam Loco and Tender:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397906853
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397907015

Western Passenger Car:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397907120
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397907267

Western Caboose Car:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397907459
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397907596

Wuppertal Suspension Train:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397904545


I'm am aware that if an issue like this occurs, I should be looking at the troubleshooting guides. But the reason I'm reporting this is because I want to make sure if anyone else is able to replicate this and to make sure that I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. If not, then this is an issue on my end (such as a conflicting addon) and I'll do my best to figure out what's causing it.
Last edited by FruitBerryCrunch; 1 Jan @ 9:39am
Originally posted by SligWolf:
The issue is fixed now!

Read this:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/changelog/2866238940

Make sure to update all affected addons and restart the game after the downloads are done!
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SligWolf 1 Jan @ 11:59am 
We have investigated the cause of it in a debugging session with FruitBerryCrunch, Grocel and me. It seems to be a particular side effect in the source engine caused by tracing. We have found such code in this addon:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=197623047

-- [...] function HealthBarGetHealth() for k, v in pairs(player.GetAll()) do local tr = util.GetPlayerTrace(v, v:GetAimVector()) local trace = util.TraceLine(tr) -- <- This line -- [...] end end hook.Add("Think", "NpcHudGetHealth", HealthBarGetHealth) CreateConVar("sv_showhealthbar", 1)

I will take care of this issue in our addons to account for this sideeffect.
Please make sure you don't have any addon conflicts while we work on a fix.
Thanks @FruitBerryCrunch for helping to find this issue.

Related issue, please also read:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/SligWolfAddons/discussions/1/597388807236538786/
Last edited by SligWolf; 19 Jan @ 2:07am
Important info:

All fixes and other projects are on hold because of internet outages!
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/SligWolfAddons/announcements/detail/517450015602377155
Last edited by SligWolf; 4 Jan @ 8:04am
I don't even have that addon, and my trains are still broken.
Grocel 15 Jan @ 9:13pm 
@TB7 Productions: Please still check for addon conflicts. It can be caused by another addon as well.
SligWolf 16 Jan @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by TB7 Productions:
I don't even have that addon, and my trains are still broken.

This is now the fourth time that we tell you to check for addon conflicts aka the troubleshooting guide.

3 times in this thread:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/SligWolfAddons/discussions/1/597388807236538786/

and now one time here from Grocel.

Till this day you didn't respond to me that you found a conflicting addon or not.
So that's why I have to assume that you didnt even try.

If I see you again posting useless nonsense you will be banned.
We will not work with a user who act like a wall.
I'm terribly sorry for acting the way I've been here. I followed the troubleshooting guide and managed to get my train addons working again. I hope you can forgive me for acting like a wall to you.
Originally posted by TB7 Productions:
I'm terribly sorry for acting the way I've been here. I followed the troubleshooting guide and managed to get my train addons working again. I hope you can forgive me for acting like a wall to you.

Accepted and forgiven. :p2cube:



Also, we were able to fix the main problem. It was a general problem with spawning SW vehicles and there parts. Conflicting addons just showed this issue very precise in our cases but weren't really the cause of it.

I will prepare all affected addons for the fix and work as fast as I can since we had this issue now a whole month going. I will respond here and close the reports if the fix go live. :steamthumbsup:
Last edited by SligWolf; 3 Feb @ 8:08am
Grocel 9 Feb @ 1:18am 
Yesterday we have finished a fix for this issue. It took us a bit longer than expected as we wanted to make sure that our fix did not break anything else. If everything works to plan it should arrive later this day.
A moderator of this forum has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
The issue is fixed now!

Read this:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/changelog/2866238940

Make sure to update all affected addons and restart the game after the downloads are done!
SligWolf 9 Feb @ 11:07am 
Closed as solved.
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