Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Ps: If red bots not work on MvM it's because they have no goal, goal are like capture/defend a point, capture intel.
And blue bots in mvm have a objective capture the flag(yes the bomb is a flag), I think you know you played our(me and Michal) bwr or bc from ThisLD.
So by keeping the payload logic (cart that is a control point) red bots work without any problem.

i play a lot of community made plugins and gamemodes and if there is mvm logic the way to make red bots move is: give a random robot a non-team flag (gray color) and bots will go after that robot

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Originally posted by (BNE) ahim:

you mean by manually creating a .pop file using a text editor?

No and it's the problem :\ if server owner want to make it work they need a plugin(I did one)

But every pop did by a website work, only hatch, bomb alarm, upgrades station need to be created and it's really easy.

one problem though. if we do this how will red bots be able to move?

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Originally posted by (BNE) ahim:

ok, for creating custom pop files visit this site:http://mvm.tf/ (when you download the pop file you made it will be formatted into a .txt file format it into a .pop file)

Thanks I know it already ;), but I like the old way manually.
If you want a full list of what work:
-Hatch obiviously x)
-Tank path ;)
-Bomb alarm
-Upgrade station
-Spawning of bots

you mean by manually creating a .pop file using a text editor?

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Originally posted by (BNE) ahim:

so you edited the map and the gamemode?

Yes without any download required.

ok, for creating custom pop files visit this site: http://mvm.tf/ (when you download the pop file you made it will be formatted into a .txt file format it into a .pop file)

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Originally posted by (BNE) ahim:

to turn a normal tf2 map into a mvm map you need 3 or more spawnpoints,robot waypoint props (the ones with the bomb carrier icon) a new nav file,a custom popfile (the wave file), a tank spawnpoint and a hatch prop

I did it and not need to create a custom map. And nope the old nav file can perfectly work if you don't add gates(mannhattan one) or any prop that can block the way to the hatch

so you edited the map and the gamemode?

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

I also found a way to make mvm work on payload map withtout crash and bring custom wave on, I wondering how can look a new gamemode by mixing STT/MvM on payload map, retake the game mechanic of STT payload + mvm bot, and I think whitout create a custom map this can be really cool.

you can try using some things from other plugins

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Originally posted by (BNE) ahim:

i tried it on mann vs tank and i figured it does work but there are issues like invincible giant robots and (of course) they don't reply to things such as: "do you want to be a steel gauntlet?" and on pl_barnblitz when a bot becomes a giant with the bomb he goes to the stairs and mindlessly attemps to walk through without crouching

It's a broken update if I'm right 1.8.1 something like that but I release 2 weeks ago the 1.9v and all of those bugs, And you are right about barnblitz the same problem happen on upward, it's because of valve nav, but I'm working on a way to block a nav area, but I won't tell more here because we are on STT, so I need to respect the forum.

oh yea forgot to mention on pl_upward robots circle around the spawn room when it changes

Originally posted by ๖ۣۜЯɪᴄʜᴛᴏғᴇη:

It does work surprisingly. (done with Mann VS Tank)

i tried it on mann vs tank and i figured it does work but there are issues like invincible giant robots and (of course) they don't reply to things such as: "do you want to be a steel gauntlet?" and on pl_barnblitz when a bot becomes a giant with the bomb he goes to the stairs and mindlessly attemps to walk through without crouching

when STT gets releassed will it be playable with TFbots?

Originally posted by aarmy.Benoist3012:

Originally posted by (BNE) ahim:

well i always get this text in my console when any map starts *map's name*.cfg not present so maybe i can input this into payload and mvm maps

autoexec.cfg should be executed it's weird maybe you did a error somewhere, well you should maybe add this in your autoexec.cfg

exec robots.cfg

When you did create a new file called robots the formating need to be cfg of course.

and add in

con_filter_enable 1
con_filter_text_out "Cannot update control point"

It should work but actually, but it's useless the command should work in autoexec.cfg.

ok thanks