Ursprungligen skrivet av Magicslayer:

I dont take back what I said or where I stand, but lets set a couple of things straight. Number one: If this was an illegal move, according to community rules, bans would have been issued, that never happened. We hadn't disscussed the possibility of this tactic being used and was a legal move and is now up for community vote. Had this never happened, we wouldn't have known of it and couldn't have set it before the community. Number two: It was absolutely an exploit in the purest form of the word. You don't have to glitch the game out or do things that break the physics of a game to exploit, an exploit is something done over and over again for benefit. The respawn in location was exploited for gain, it was used over and over again with the premeditated intent of grabbing the explosives in a backpack and blowing up the underside of the Odin. This is an unintended use of this game feature, made evident by the move of the devs to place clone and medic chambers in hovers, and wasn't ment to be used in PVP situations, hense it is an exploit of a game feature for an unintended use by the devs and I stand behind that %100. I don't make the rules for the server, everything is put up for vote. It was a cheap move and completely unnecessary, the Faust had the Odin dead to rights and a couple more shots would have taken out the core.

No one cheated, it was all well in the rules.
Game mechanics were exploited.
The Omega's lost the battle.
And new rules and guidelines are being voted on.
Had the Omega's exploited the game in the same way, the same actions would be happening in the community!

Anything beyond this is petty. To get all pissy and leave just shows just how little you think of us and our ability to resolve issues like this. Thanks in having such little faith in us. You all have been playing with us for a while, and I thought we were all friends. This isn't how friends treat friends. Yes, hard words were said and we got heated over a game, but at the end of the day it's just a stupid game, on a computer, made of things that don't exist in real life. What exists outside of the game, in real life, out here in the physical world, is us real people. To let somethis stupid come between real people is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, and trust me I've heard some really dumb things in my life.

I really admire you both, Spanj and Static, and that exists outside of 'stupid clones of Minecraft' (that was put in to piss off Wolf.......^_^). Spanj, you have inspired me in my video and livestream recording. Without you, I'd be really dull. Static, if it wasn't for you, I'd probably be in jail for punching a lawyer, instead we were able to work out an agreement and now me and the opposing lawyer chat about video games and Warhammer40K. My friendship with you guys extend well beyond the games, and that goes for everyone. I have stories for each and every person in the community that I've talked with. I know for a fact that for every story and personal experience I have, TheeWolf has a hundred more. Don't take what happens in a game so personally, and please have a little bit of faith in us when it involves having a fair and balanced server, no matter what game it is. If you feel you'll have more fun playing somewhere else, I can't help that and I wish you luck, but I would ask you to wait to see what comes from putting up to the community to vote on. We worked hard to get the server to you and we are still working hard in keeping the server running and balanced for everyone, not just our own gameplay.

There it is, no sugar coating, no beating around the bush. Just %100 pure, raw, Magic. Take or leave it. ^_^

I too will give you no sugar coating and no beating around the bush, since I respect your directness.

I have to say something right off the bat. I don't hate you or anyone else or think that you are bad people. I absolutely regret NOT saying that in my first post. I should have made that absolutely clear, and for not doing so, I apologize.

That being said, I stand by everything else I said. The reason it sounded so vitriolic is because these are feelings that have been slowly building for a long time. The server is great. You guys put a ton of work into it each season. That is absolutely clear. However, through 4 "seasons" (im including the first big test pre alpha-8 as a season because it lasted a long time) i have noticed a tendency to either quit, or accuse the other team of cheating. It pretty much has always been us. I cannot remember an attack by my own faction that wasn't met with the majority of a faction quitting the server, or someone complaining that we had cheated. The situation with the Odin just made it all come to a head, and I couldn't take it anymore.

And I do remember that I called you liars. I stand by that. It was a harsh word to use, and perhaps not the most accurate for what I was referring to, but I stand by it to the extent that I was referring specifically to how you guys portrayed the issue on your livestream (I also recognize that, that was unclear). Obviously you are free to do what you want on your stream. I am not the Twitch police and I do not intend to be. But one person in particular left the channel to berate us for what he called "cheating," and told us to go away and stop, ya know, pvp'ing. He then popped back into the stream making false claims about what we had said (perhaps because, my response to his accusation was not Twitch friendly). The story became that we had already lost and were just spawing to waste ammo. Despite the fact that I was still flying around fighting 3 different targets.

But if you want to talk specifics of the battle: yes, the faust was up and fighting. I went to rearm it twice, because the Odin was lagging the server quite hard, and it was very difficult to account for lag jumps with my shots. Spanj respawned to get his backpack and place C4 on the Odin - as was our plan B (Plan A - kill with Faust. Plan B - kill from underneath with C4). It would not be called an exploit if the tank had simlpy driven away, because there would have been no way to plant the C4, and that plan would have been abandoned - and we would have more than likely completely lost. But in the drivers rage, he stopped moving the tank to scream cheating and foul play, and in that time, C4 was planted on the core. Serves you right in my opinion.

But reasonable minds can disagree about a game exploit I think. I'm not here to argue that point. Because the reason for me leaving has been building up for a long time. It is not married to this one issue. Back in season 6, I was attacked solo (because the rest of the faction had quit already) by 6 pirates when I was an MP. 4 tanks and 2 fighters vs myself and a crate of flak turrets. I did the best I could. I was obviously and inevitably killed. I respawned in my CV (which, as it happens, I had just loaded with all the base gold and supplies), jumped in the cockpit, and escaped the fight (what any sane person would call "making the smart move" I believe). I didn't even know anyone on the server at that point. I knew spanj and wolf from their videos. Thats it. But I wouldn't say I was friendly with anyone yet. I did not view this as cheating or an exploit, or a personal attack. I did not rage and quit. I didn't yell at anyone, or try to make new rules. 6v1 is not really fair, sure, maybe ill give you that, but its a risk that comes with playing solo. A risk that I accepted.

I did what I could, and that was it. But I didn't quit the game. I rebuilt my fighters and built a massive fort to defend the home system (all of these things are documented through videos from spanj, chief, and wolf - Check em out!). However, not everyone shares that tenacity. I don't necessarily blame them - losing everything sucks! But that has been a consistent issue with our pvp servers, which is why I am looking to change things up. I do not hate or even dislike anyone in this community. If I did, I wouldn't still be a member. I fully intend to carry on a friendship with EVERYONE on here. I am just looking for a different pvp experience.

I do hope we continue to play games and enjoy them. You are all great people, and I do not feel otherwise about anyone in here. But thats my piece.

I agree with you 95% Spanj. Except on one point. I don't believe you have contributed to the acidity on this server. I think that certain people have a difficult time dealing with the inevitable losses that come with PVP, which causes the server to be tense at times. We have shown restraint on too many occasions to count, and you have earned the right to call certain people out for what they are: liars.

I have watched through 4 seasons now as one team repeatedly quits after the first big loss. One team repeatedly questions the validity of playing the game when they happen to lose. One team who immediately attempts to change the servre rules after a loss. Who repeatedly calls us cheaters using exploits when we fight, then turning around and proclaiming to the community that we are all friends and all equal. Friends don't accuse friends of cheating because they lost.

I too will be leaving the server. I fully place the blame with certain members of the server leadership who have created a toxic environment that has caused so many others to leave. The rest of the community I very much enjoy spending time with and playing games with. They have nothing to do with this decision, and have in fact made it a difficult one to make. But I would rather go to a server where the leadership has respect for its players.

this man is on to something

I was wondering if we could get a solid date for the launch of the full Alpha 8 server. I've been hearing through the grapevine that there are plans to launch the server "the moment its finished" without any mention of this on the forums. That seems a bit ridiculous to me as its never been done like that before. Especially since I'm not entirely sure we worked out all the kinks from the test server in terms of the new galaxy setup. Anyway, if we could set a solid date that would be best I think, maybe hold a community blog before its official launch to make sure everything is ironed out BEFORE they become in-game issues.

even when it was a rule, a lot of people didn't follow it, and I dont blame the admins for not wanting to police it anymore lol

Ursprungligen skrivet av Germanicus:

As the smallest ANT of the "Hud"-Faction I would like to point out that the current amount of Asteriods for Zasc, Neody and Erestrum have a too slow respawn time to fullfill the demands of the PvP factions AND our own...I know I know Wolf told us why... but just saying

to address an issue that is somewhat related to this, can you make the respawn rate every, say, 8 hours? because depending on when it respawns every day, that might be inconvenient for certain PVE factions, causing the other to dominate that resource. This would of course be unfair. Just a thought.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hudfire:

As owner of our faction, I cannot promote any members to admin. Tried logging out and back in and still doesn't work.

are those faction members one when you try to promote them? if they are not, you cannot interact with them at all. you have to have them online to promote them

Not sure if they are suppose to be traders, but there are NPC trader models at the admin building on the PVP world, who you cannot trade with. Bug or intentional?

on PVP and PVE homeworlds/spawn points, players are spawning in te ground - below the POI - and have to jump up to get into it.

Ursprungligen skrivet av spanj:

Ursprungligen skrivet av StaticHair:

OP not working on PVP homeworld

After testing with Wolf, OP appears to be working as expected but not sure why it was not working when Nakrom attacked (when no one in our faction was online). We need to monitor this and watch out for more strangeness with OP.

Allow me to preemptively say for all who see this as well: whether or not the base has power is irrelevant for OP to work. Both Eleon and our own tests have confirmed this. So everyone just be on the lookout for more bugs like this.