https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309692918
primary solidier Rocket launcher

(+) rocket gain speed on time (from 0 to +100% rocket speed)
(+) rocket gain damage on time (from -60 to -20% damage at long range, up to +40%)
(+) +100% clip size
(+) accuracy scales damage by 15% (+15% each hit)
(+) +25% attack rate
(-) -60% base damage
(-) -80% blast radius
(-) -30% self push force

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3485
Assassin's Scroll

(+) you deal 25% more damage to the player you are disguised as
(+) killing someone while disguised as him will increase his death by 5 second
(-) take 25% more damage from the one who you are disguised as
(-) take 1 second longer to disguise

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=91364519
Shadow Breeze

(+) on kill : scare ennemies in a 500u range for 2 second
(+) on crit : scare the victim for 2 second
(-) -25% attack rate
(-) -66% crit damage

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646628591
One of my favorite Model ever
High Noon

(+) have 6 ammo in clip
(+) on headshoot kill : instantly reload the clip
(+) you can shot multiple bullet at once depending on how charged is your rifle
one bullet added every 25% charge, up to 4 at 100% (mean it deal 200 damage !)
(-) -25% charge rate
(-) charge don't increase bullet's damage
(-) reloading the clip is 100% longer
(-) 18 ammo carried

Another weapon who punish you a lot for missing your target
maybe impossible to put 2 different animation

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3749

(+) on hit : +1% ubercharge
(+) ubercharge rate increase attack rate, up to +50%
(+) infinite clip size/ammo
(-) -25% base attack rate
(-) -15% damage
(-) each shot cost 1% ubercharge

KoopaKing64 lähetti viestin:

Eternal_Suffering™ lähetti viestin:

Well the brute force already crits while airborn so the marlet gardening demo is already a thing but its doest fit a sword that gives you damage vulnerability while active and tou have to take damage from sticky jumps. I suggested that it would crit while airborn because it already is a weapon based on sticky jumping unlike the brute force

Suffering does have a good point about the brute force.
The marked death penalty does counter-act against the crit on airborne buff on the grounds that you might kill yourself by accident since switching to your melee while already having the stickies set to jump will have you take extra damage from the blast due to your mark.(except the sticky jumper)
And all for a upside that's hard to pull off due to aimming down on a single enemy and hoping the hit will land and kill them before you get yourself killed shortly after, again due to the mark.
You can make the argument that you can jump with the sticky launcher and then pull out the force and that's a good point... except the fact that the draws and sheaths slower than normal and need I remind you, it marks you when you have it out anyways while trying to to pull it off

It's true that this attribut should be given to the jumping jesopat instead of the Brute force
Giving impossible attribut to the brut force make it good on paper but useless in fact
Those two need some change, but not a total weapon rework into demoknight items

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=673352097
Steel Wise Wrench

(+) on any kill : reduce buildings cost by 5%
(+) on melee kill : reduce buildings cost by 10%
(-) 20% less metal carried
(-) -20% melee attack rate

Not the best for Nest builders, better for engi that are annoyed or just need to keep following a payload/capture point
I think that putting Wrench without so much buildings/replacement is important too
And you can still attach some Sentry modification to it
I reduce Buildings cost instead of increase max ammo to deny Infinite metal carried

LegoFan9o5 lähetti viestin:

Thrynity lähetti viestin:

I just love it how it is cause im a naughty annoying flying demopan who dislike falldamage and can enjoy that charge é_è
Because sticky is one of the powerfullest weapon in the game
The jumping jesophat is not made for demoknight
And you can use it with the Cannon instead of sticky to keep your Shield
But it's not a Demoknight Melee
It's a Flying Demo melee obviously
Everyone have is own favorite playstyle, just do it as you want and stop trying to mess about it

Also I think that the weapon is how it is cause it's limited by the attribut
You moght know that Crafting have trouble finding coders to help him fixing & making new stuff

Sticky Launcher on its own is definitely not the strongest weapon in the game. Even when sticky spamming, a Soldier with stock would easily deal large amounts of damage and have more HP and versatility with his weapons. He has more range as well and allows for rocket jumping more frequetly than the Sticky.

Well why not? A weapon should be a sidegrade from stock but almost NEVER exclusive use for a single loadout. The Shortstop suggests you use it with Mad Milk to heal more, but it is a fine weapon on its own. What is the point of having a weapon be so specailized that it's only purpose is to be paired with another weapon? And no, using the Loose Cannon to bypass the sticky launcher does not excuse the weapon for being overspecialized garbage.

Eternal will "mess about it" as much as he very well likes! Suggesting for a change for the sake of change is sometimes harmful, but Eternal noted a weapon that is largely underutilized by a majority of the server and wanted to see it have more viability in comparison to other weapons. Yes, it is ment for flying Demotrolls, but it punishes them too much to make any of the current upsides worth using or exploring.

Also, the attributes suggested have been applied to other weapons before Eternal's suggestion, so no it is not because it is limited due to staffing limitations. Moreso, it would likely be caused by silence of the state of the weapon, something Eternal has been trying to disrupt in order to make a new weapon for Demoman that could be fun and fair to use and encounter in cTF2w.

The Tell me what the claid hem mor is of it's not esclusive ? Same for the persan sword
For the BASE jumper, for the wee booties... Etc...
A lot of weapon are made for just one type of gameplay
Here I just don't understand while you would use the jumping jesopat with shield

I just love it how it is cause im a naughty annoying flying demopan who dislike falldamage and can enjoy that charge é_è
Because sticky is one of the powerfullest weapon in the game
The jumping jesophat is not made for demoknight
And you can use it with the Cannon instead of sticky to keep your Shield
But it's not a Demoknight Melee
It's a Flying Demo melee obviously
Everyone have is own favorite playstyle, just do it as you want and stop trying to mess about it

Also I think that the weapon is how it is cause it's limited by the attribut
You moght know that Crafting have trouble finding coders to help him fixing & making new stuff

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=85771506
Crossbow for medic
Use Sniper Rifle as base weapon

(+) 90% faster reload (quick blink reload descop)
(+) on hit : refresh all debuff on the victim (reset afterburn, bleed, milk, jarate...)
(+) turn 10% of the damage into ubercharge and 10% ubercharge on kill
(+/-) scope don't zoom
(-) leave a trail
(-) -60% attack rate
(-) no headshoot
(-) -50% damage