Originally posted by Thrynity:

Originally posted by Coolskeleton95:

you're relying on random crits, if it doesn't work he's going to run away or kill you
and it doesnt matter if its 600 or 1800, it's going to 1 shot you.

it's going to one shoot you if your bad enougth to get killed by a backstab
and if you are not next to your sentry
still need this melee to calm down this faggot without having to switch & reload

Look the support wrench is good as it is. It's not overpowered nor underpowered. In the right hands you won't need to be alert of spies because youll ne with your team supporting them and theyll support you. If you find it hard to kill spies then be more alert of your surroundings dont be a little pussy relaying on random crits when you can have skill

Originally posted by Coolskeleton95:

Originally posted by Trash Man:

Not true. The Force-A-Nature fires twice as fast as the Stock Scattergun, yet it only has a 50% faster firing speed.

did not know that.

Maybe you would if you would read the stats of the weapons you use before using them

So I know that you have the Timely Demise ready so I just wanted to suggest 1 more debuff if your using Karma Charger's: Cannot disable sapped building

Originally posted by Thrynity:

Originally posted by Coolskeleton95:

support wrench buff
+100% attack speed
+50% metal reserve

Ok, now lets melee with engi
+100% don't mean it's instant, it's just 2 time faster (if you use attribut 6)

SUPPORT WRENCH DONT NEED BUFF

True. Its preety balanced

I was thinking, since the Class Destroyer's model is not that interesting why not replace it with this model:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=101038801
It would made sense since Saxton Hale is really fricking strong it makes you deal more damage to the same class

Weapon Stats Changes (including the current stats):

AW - Danger Ranger:
+25% fater projectile speed while in the air

Immobile Sentry:
-Cannot stay spinned up
-10% spin up time

Tiki Tonic:
While under the effects:
+10% faster movement speed

AW - Culling Blade:
User is able to see targets health

Push Over:
+Airblasted projectiles are crits

Life Blood:
-25% damage instead of 50%
+50% of damage dealt turns into health

Support Wrench
+Sentry bullets target enemies for death (the sentry would still deal no damage)
-150% slower sentry fire rate
Instead of the normal sentry its the mini sentry (this is so engies that don't read the stats dont waste their time building a Lv3 sentry)

Multiclass (soldier, pyro, heavy, engineer):
Shellshock (secondary):
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=622928860
While active:
When 100 damage is dealt to an enemie it stuns them
-15% damage
-25% firing speed

Medic:
Critical Transmission (secondary):
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=513923603
While active:
+15% longer medigun range
+15% faster healing rate when target is at lower than 1/2 health
-25% slower healing rate when target is higher than 1/2 health
-10% uber rate
Uber: The medic medigun send a ray of electricity able to attach to an enemy dealing damage and setting them on fire

Pyro:
Fire Ants (secondary):
You are able to throw a grenade that on explosion deals 40 damage and sets enemy on fire for 6 seconds
The grenade has a 3 seconds detonation
Can only carry 2 at a time
Able to be replenished by ammo packs
(The model would be the pyros grenade that he has on his suit and the stand would be the normal all class melee stanse but holding the grenade and would look the same to the player)

The Battering Cannon
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=521288092
Weapon stats:
+25% push force against both enemy players and the user
-15% damage penalty
+25% slower firing speed

Original stats idea was took from Karma Charger's video but i added the +25% slower firing speed

Sniper:

Grapling Hook (Secondary): Its bassiclly the normal TF2 graple hook but with a 20 to 30 second cooldown.
This weapon would replace the Camper's Climber because theres no need for 2 grappling weapon and in my opinion the Grapling Hook would be a better version of the Camper's Climber letting snipers be precise to where they want to go and not be able to infinitely grapple against walls.

There is currently a glitch with the survivalist's sluger where theres a model of something blocking the right side of the screen and i makes it reallyhard to aim with it. I really like the concept of this weapen and i would love if youd fix this problem as soon as possible, thanks.