You misunderstand. If the process was automated then the file would be backed up by his installer then patched without having to move anything meaning the process taks less than half the time and is less likely to screw up. Even if an improved installer didnt detect the game's install location you could make it so you point to those files and the result would be the same. Look in the old 13-2 modding thread and you will see many people who screwed it up for one reason or another. The first time even I had some trouble with it. I think he improved the read me since then tho I'm not sure but I'm not trying to argue it. I'm just looking to find out if a simpler and faster way is POSSIBLE not get the idea poopood because of it's apparent lack of nessecity. Geez take a look around the descussions here and you will see LOADS of worse and less important ideas than this.

I know he can't upload prepatched files as that would piss off SE and you are right about the order of 13-2's mods I think. I just figure he can automate the process a bit more even if he can't do a steam workshop project with it. Maybe make an install package that simply detects your game's location and backsup then patches the game for you without having to move any files. Dunno about you but moving the making a compressed backup of the largest files in the game folder as a slow process for me even given how good my PC is. And installing the mods is easier to screw up than you might think. Anyway you're probably right about workshop not being possible. It was just an idea(and one made while half asleep).

To answer your question I don't know if it requires Dev support but I don't think it requires a speciffic file format as long as you can automate the install. As to SE caring about mods I don't think it matters much as long as you do what Krisan is doing and try not to piss them off I'm pretty sure they don't care one way or the other. And though you are right about installing the mods being easy you have to install them in a speciffic order and there ARE complications at times. And skyrim? I agree with you on that but I also think there are so many mods with that that many conflict with eachother anyway. I mean install a dozen you really really want and chances are at least ONE will cause a crash due to conflict. I'm just asking if it can be done is all. I figure if Krisan can do it through workshop and Lable the order the mods have to be installed in then modding 13, 13-2 and eventually LR will be piss easy.

True. I just wish game companies went back to the old days where they listen to and trust their customers(Piracy aside I mean) I mean look at Bioware. Not exactly the greatest game company but so many of their games are mod friendly it makes them that much more fun and they keep reasonable prices so piracy and hacking are relatively low on many of their titles. If I didn't want to be able to mod or cheat in my OFFLINE games I'd play them on PS3 or something. sigh where did the trust go?

As I said I haven't finished downloading it yet but in properties in steam it's turned off for me.

By settings I meant in steam. In the game's properties.

Still that's a weird feature to have it not start without cloud but still be able to turn it off for the game in it's settings. Like it's passively dependant on cloud or it's not by design or something.

hmmm yeah I hate cloud as well. Had some trouble a while back with Origin not allowing me to turn cloud off and when I asked Origin for help all they could say is cloud is awesome why would I want to turn it off. Sigh because I am on a slow internet connection and cloud screws with things maybe?

NUDE MODS!!!!!! LOL JK. but seriously some mods to alter appearance might be kinda cool when you get around to it. For exampl I would LOVE to see Lightning in the Blood Dragon Armor from Dragon age games. Maybe replace the look of some of her more ugly and less usefull costumes to do so.

Just wondering if the mods for FF13, 13-2 and type-0 can be converted to workshop format for easy installation at some point. Sucks that WS is limited to about 5 mods at a time per game but outside skyrim really thats about all you need for most games. Any chance of this happening?