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i think generally: the more, the better ... unless audio problems occur. happened on very few games before

Originally posted by Bazzy:

Yeah ot as well, be warned!

https://twitter.com/thatsmytrunks/status/968532390934188034

yeah. he spries are loking badly, like no maching, or turned 90° or so. well, some conen had o be changed o avoid conracs wih ninendo, bu i am sill happy i´s here, why? because i´s one of my absolue fav games, and mod it to it´s glory, lol
Ps. you canno oubea me on hose merch :p

a bit off topic:
https://steamhost.cn/app/613830/CHRONO_TRIGGER/
that one as well getting credit here^^

Originally posted by Bazzy:

Originally posted by ACE:

most likely the reason Square and Nintendo broke up... but nintendo had the power back those days :/

Don't we know this nowdays? The whole nintendo playstation thing was reportedly due to the fact that sony didn't knew about the philips cdi thing nintendo were doing and they felt like this was a breach of contract and droped the nintendoplaystation idea as a result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRail-6p--U

and released i then heirself :p here are even pics of prooypes even having connecors for SNES pads. And Phillips got the zelda license, giving us te wors elda games ever :/
Edit: typed befpore waching, lol

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

That's still a whole lot of speculation, but yeah Nintendo was pretty bad back in the day.

most likely the reason Square and Nintendo broke up... but nintendo had the power back those days :/

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Unless there is definitive evidence, I don't buy exclusivity deal theories. They tend to be stuff people just outright make up and then people start repeating it as if it's somehow "likely."

See: Final Fantasy IX, X, and XII for examples of people peddling conspiracies about alleged exclusivity deals. Despite the total lack of evidence, I still see people citing a mythical exclusivity deal to explain why Final Fantasy Tactics isn't yet available for PCs (despite the fact it's already on iOS and Android). There's nothing wrong with speculation, but it turns into people saying it's "likely" way too easily with no more evidence than a feedback loop of people repeating it.

As to Final Fantasy Adventure/Adventures of Mana having no challenge, I'd say Adventures of Mana is so incredibly faithful to the original that if someone hated the first game they probably won't like it. It's not just nostalgia for the music in my case: I actually think the music is very good. I also acknowledge it's so close to the original that may be a negative factor for some. For me when comparing it to Sword of Mana, the latter's world feels almost claustrophobic in that it abandons any illusion of freedom to travel around the world.

i don´t have evidence anymore, read it ages ago in a local games magaine about the Nintendo lock, bu if you mith remember: many games were on SNES and Sega sharing he same name, but were totally different games. only later pors to ninendo weren´t couning in like Moral Kombat and Doom. There´s a strong point i am right if you reflect those facts. Not sure about FFT on mobiles, haven´tt played any yet.

About Sony: Sony had a quite similar regulation till a few months ago: if games were having that "esclusive on Sony" on the games i was foebidden to port it to anoher non Sony for a year. FFX collecion was he bes example: the Seamlaunch was exactly a year later after the latest launch on PS4 (first worlwide launch applies to the rule, so usually japanese release). Now it´s allowed, bu obviusly i has o have denuvu and doesn´have o be cheaper than the Sony price. SoM is he best example.

Originally posted by Bazzy:

There was a f2p game called "Rise of Mana", but i think that is dead, but to be completly frank i hate the idea in useing a phone without haptic feedback for gaming. The controller question even makes this worse. So even if such a game came to the west, i would most likely still avoiding it.

Fun fact the aforementioned Rise Of Mana was most likely part of the reason this SoM Remake and AoM came to be in the first place. I was discussing all of this last year as the remake was announced. And yeah wasn't the most positive of discussions, to say it lightly. :D

So.. about this android version of SoM it looks really good, but everybody always says how shit it is, what is the deal with that? The first time i saw side on side comparison shots with it and the original SNES one i wanted that version on pc. So i'm not sure what is wrong with that. Was it the controlls, did they botch the gameplay?

hm, don´t know if it was F2P/mobile :/ just asia only :(
the android is looking really better, but mostly replaced sprites and gave better water, and i´m fine with it, just the contolls suck like you mentioned. haven´t tried my mobile yet:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=516650154
and then the 3D version came, so skipping the mobile :p
I have played the original SNES version really really often, and i will play the abdroid/3D version as well, not an purist like most others...

Originally posted by Bazzy:

Do you reckon the Seiken collection for switch has such an exclusivity deal attached to it as well?
Would still be cool to see that on steam, especially.

If not i just emulate it, never saw any problem in emulating stuff that isn't on sale in the region i'm in. Same goes for manga and anime for ages, so what gives.

i said in these times, so most likely: yes :/ but maybe Secret woun´t have the SNES version, but the Android version. but on older ones, i doubt. The whole colection wouldn´t make sense bringing here if half was ripped off :( but i hear there´s an online game in japan/asia, and even a new one shall come. let´s hope it´ll here as well^^

Originally posted by Bazzy:

I have to say i hate the fact that you and others use SoM for Sword of mana and Secret of Mana as an acronym alike, makes the whole discussion confusing. So let me get this straight AoM is the third remake of FFA than? What the.. why was there never a complete one, if you say even the gba one was cut?

Second the fact that both are on nintendo consoles only, is this a licensing thing? I find it odd that Dawn Of Souls for example got a PSP version very quickly, where Sword seemingly stayed on the gba as did Secret Of Mana until this remake and that did come to the sony systems after 25 years, now?

I do not like how FFA is playing, its that simple, thus i prefer Sword.
Also everyone you hear talking about AoM says there is no difficulty or challenge in that game, so what is even the point of playing, there will be no nostalgia listening to the music for me. So i rather listen to the music on its own and play Sword instead. :D

ok, thought SoM meaning Secret of Mana obviously, and Secret was cut on SNES :/
Actually Nintendo had an exclusivity rule on NES/SNES ages: no later porting to other non Nintendo systems. So remastering a game is enough to avoid this rule, beside some even more tricky options. (mostly changed sprites and adding content) Sadly, that days Nintendo had the power to do so :/

Actually: i played som FFA on my new (taht time) 37" TV, first flat one, and it was high cobtrast playing 4 greyscales only :p