Demo: https://testing.potato.tf/demos/mvm_lostvalley_b5_int_spine_thief_judge-1661497004.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: No Strike

Team Lineup:

• Bazooks (Soldier)
  
• Lemonée (Demoman)
  
• diamondmaid (Engineer)
  
• Averagegamer (Scout)

• Soldier, Demoman, Pyro and Scout don't deserve the same numbers for offensive specialism. Soldier and Demoman are way better at avoiding damage than Pyro, and Scout is a lot more mobile with tons of healing from money.

• Try to avoid having wavespawns with low maxactive when possible, especially not a wavespawn that is limited to 1 squad at a time. This usually results in future squads taking a very long time to reach the point where red is currently holding. Sometimes this is justified by having very powerful squads that make the recovery time well deserved, but as of now wavespawns in this mission just don't fit that criteria. This is most notable with the Giant Soldiers in wave 1.

• This wave was notably harder than the other waves, mostly by having too much things active at once.
  
• The super scouts don't accomplish much on their own, they can have less delay between spawns and/or before spawning.

• This wave was also notably harder than the other waves, though it's mostly because of the homing giant being overtuned. Try to reduce its homing power and/or damage.

Demo: https://sgp.potato.tf/demos/mvm_nightsky_rc4d_exp_condemned_conflict_judge-1661002988.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: No Strike

Team Lineup:

• Bazooks (Soldier)
  
• Mudun (Engineer)
  
• UltimentM (Sniper)
  
• colonel (Demoman -> Pyro -> Heavy)
  
• face-melting dragon ass (Medic -> Soldier -> Demoman)
  
• AnanAs (Scout -> Sniper)

• Building mastery for engineer

• Burst fire module for grenade launchers is extremely strong - transforming +40% fire rate into +99% at no additional cost massively increases damage output with no real downsides as Demoman can cope with the projectile spread very easily. Try to introduce a downside severe enough to make it worth reconsidering, as currently the damage output of grenade launchers with this is so massive it even makes beggar's look weak.
  
• Streamlined buildings can't be bought as is.

• Psychopath's Seeker has too much damage output for how much risk it has - its only downside is that it has an initial spread so large that your crosshair really needs to not be anywhere near walls in order to not hurt yourself, but otherwise it's even easier to use than rocket launchers. As of now it has a higher long term damage output than the beggar's without having the risk of needing to be close to robots or loading barrages at the correct time. It needs to have either lower output or a more severe downside.

• It's about time that we address the pokemon model in the upgrade stations. Really now?
  
• The Overseer feels quite out of place with the way they're narrating for the whole mission. While TF2 isn't known for being very serious, the overseer takes it up a notch further and talks like it's a meme mission being played by new players. The overseer doesn't contribute much to the vibe of the mission and instead feels a bit disrespectful by telling expert difficulty players what uber medics do.
  
• Asides from wave 4, which is also addressed in this feedback for its own reasons, all of the waves feel like they're only difficult because of very high firepower crit bots; thus immediately giving up the moment players have projectile shield. Try to be difficult in other ways that don't feel very cheap.

• The seeker soldiers in this wave still feel very brutal, with high damage, highly accurate rockets leaving most classes with very little options against the foe other than just downright tanking attacks, usually with a medic.

Demo: https://sgp.potato.tf/demos/mvm_decompose_rc5a_adv_ghoulish_genesis-1661001409.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: No Strike

Team Lineup:

• Bazooks (Soldier)
  
• Mudun (Scout)
  
• colonel (Pyro)
  
• rafradek (Demoman)
  
• face-melting dragon ass (Engineer)
  
• AnanAs (Heavy)

• Mission felt very bland overall; there were no memorable subwaves as the mission basically never tried to really push through and just kept sending low impact bots that won't accomplish much, making the mission feel like a mindless botbash.

Demo: https://sgp.potato.tf/demos/mvm_lostvalley_b5_int_spine_thief_judge-1660999567.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: No Strike

Team Lineup:

• Bazooks (Soldier)
  
• DaMno (Medic)
  
• colonel (Demoman)
  
• Painiscupcake2011 (Soldier -> Scout)
  
• face-melting dragon ass (Scout -> Soldier)
  
• AnanAs (Engineer)

• All-around solid, though we might want to give it a few more runs before being certain on passing.

• Remember that not all classes are hit equal by additional damage penalty - taking offensive specialism on sniper is a very clear choice while pyro has to think about it for a while.
  
• Defensive specialism has very little penalties on Medic or Engineer, and feels hard to take on other classes as the damage is usually much more valuable - it also increases heal gain from mad milk or concheror, and indirectly, health-on-kill.

• Some of the "bullet" vaccinator medics here are blast resistant instead.

Originally posted by Space Jockey:

The wheel of doom spin logic is random, sometimes it will give players crits, other times a speed boost, and occasionally it will coat players in jarate.

Player experiences can greatly vary based on what they get from the wheel. A team getting jarate will have a significantly harder time than a team getting crits. It never feels fair to lose to RNG.

While I'm at it, I find that there's no reason to use the Assault Rifle for the Soldier. It does a maximum of 400 damage in one clip and has identical firepower to Sniper's SMG otherwise, which is very weak. When blowing Buff Banner grants infinitely more damage than switching to this weapon, why even use it?

Weapon rebalances are also not allowed. Do not change Pomson 6000's stats.

Demo: https://eu.potato.tf/demos/mvm_outlands_rc2_adv_occult_occlusion_hh2-1660296626.zip | https://eu.potato.tf/demos/mvm_outlands_rc2_adv_occult_occlusion_hh2-1660298639.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: No Strike

Team Lineup:

• DaMno (Soldier / Medic)
  
• A+Drew (Scout / Scout)
  
• totalnoob (Engineer -> Soldier / Engineer)
  
• Mudun (Sniper / Heavy)
  
• Bazooks / Yuugi (Engineer / Soldier)
  
• Roman15106 (Scout)

• Remember that having multiple wavespawns active at once, all having a maxactive lower than their totalcount WILL result in stragglers, as red getting pushed means that one wavespawn will finish up earlier than the other(s). This was most notable in wave 1 with the Soldiers/Crossbow Medics taking significantly longer to finish spawning than the giants, but it also occurred multiple times in other parts of the mission.
  
• Similarly, wavespawns with a low maxactive that spawns slow bots (usually giants) will also straggle if red gets pushed, since between each set of spawns red is given a lot of time to push back as said slow bots will take quite a while to travel the map, and in some cases red may have enough time to even push back all the way from hatch to spawn. This was most notable in wave 3 with the Colonel Barrages, but it also occurred multiple times in other parts of the mission.
  
• Not quite sure what the reasoning for having two bombs at once is, knowing that both bombs take the same path in contrast to other maps with multiple bombs like Mannhattan that have each bomb take a different path. All this accomplishes is mess with the bomb compass and increase the likelihood of a lonely bot sneaking to hatch with the bomb. It never feels fair to lose to that and the last thing you want to do is to enforce the mentality that somebody needs to babysit bombs and never move from it.
  
• Ghost ship spawn forcefully kicks bots out so fast that Soldierbots with banners don't even get to deploy before being vulnerable.

• You don't have to force player camera when everyone is most likely in front of bot spawns anyways. It's nice to be able to look at something from different prespectives, and the fade in and fade out timings aren't too polished.
  
• Tanks don't tend to do much when it's unlikely that they spawn with a headstart with its current delays OR when it doesn't give other bots a headstart. In this wave, red only needs to take out the two giants that spawn with it and they'll have the entire map to take out the tank

• Don't hide snipers having uber medics from the wavebar, I'm sure I don't need to explain why.

• Pre-boss warmup feels unnecessary and only there to pad the mission duration or mildly increase the punishment for losing at best.
  
• Remember that some weapons and even classes rely on crits in order to not be completely outclassed by others of its kind. Suddenly giving everybody full crits without saying so on the wavebar can feel unfair to those using weapons such as Kritzkrieg, Frontier Justice, KGB etc. At least if red was told beforehand that this happens, they can switch off said weapons.

Demo: https://sgp.potato.tf/demos/mvm_downtown_final4b_rev_adv_gang_wars_juj-1656155511.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: Pass with changes

Run 3/3

Team Lineup:

• Bazooks (Pyro -> Spy -> Soldier -> Spy)
  
• DaMno (Medic)
  
• Sex (Demoman)
  
• Mudun (Heavy)
  
• Dylan_is_legend (Scout)
  
• 1 neptune hater (Soldier)

• Mission should be ready for campaign with the following changes:

• We found the Pyrobots to be very strong this wave, perhaps significantly reduce their totalcount.

• Infinite crit Giant Shotgun Heavies are very concerning, please reduce their spawn rate.

Demo: https://sgp.potato.tf/demos/mvm_downtown_final4b_rev_adv_gang_wars_juj-1655294471.zip

Strike, Pass, or No Strike?: No Strike

Run 2/3

Team Lineup:

• Bazooks (Soldier)
  
• MIKObscura (Spy)
  
• royal (Pyro)
  
• Bloon (Scout)
  
• 1 neptune hater (Engineer)
  
• xXSuperProGaemr.2011Xx (Demoman)

Custom upgrades approved:

• Spy's personality chip
  
• Pyro's personality chip

• Hatch defenders shouldn't have full backstab immunity - it makes Spy completely useless during hatch phase especially on the waves with finite giants.
  
• Try not to hide giants on support, you can put them in mainspawn with 999 of them or something. Anything that doesn't make giant icons look the same as normal bots in support.
  
• Money can drop behind red barriers or in red spawn, being uncollectable.
  
• Hatch subwaves on wave 3 onwards often don't keep up with the cash players are given. A single Giant Banner Soldier isn't exactly a strong hatch defender.
  
• Pushing the payload cart often ends up as tedious labor an unfortunate player has to do while all the others have fun killing bots.
  
• The hatch spawn for giants should be moved elsewhere as the giants that spawn there don't take the shortest route to the hatch and end up wandering around the map

Originally posted by Skin King:

are you sure you were playing the right version?

The popfile does say juj so I am quite certain, but if we weren't please do point it out.