Fixed pop file issues, Updated map to (near) final state.

V3 Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d53zm0fqg9jmo93/Frostwynd.zip?dl=0

Originally posted by Sntr:

Wow, we finally got to play this and I have to say first off that I wish we would've gotten to it a lot earlier than we did.

First thing that strikes as strange is the sheer scale of everything: The map feels like it's really overscaled and even the Giants begin feeling small on this map (there's also the cliff that is probably half the length of Decoy :yoricktheskull:
And the map doesn't seem to have any bombpath markers (which makes sense because there's only one path but you should still include them because people often use them to locate the front) bomb alarm zone or even a hatch explosion.

But honestly, my bigger gripe is the huge scale. It's going to take a really long time for the bots to reach the hatch area when the bomb starts getting near the castle/chapel(?) and all the areas just feel like they could be quite a bit smaller than they are now. Especially since being restricted to Medieval while the bots get to use regular weapons on a map with open areas like that isn't going to be very enjoyable in my opinion.

I'll pass you some demos once I get my hands on them.

I don't actually think this download is the most recent version, I thought you all had forgotten about this so I haven't been updating the download lol.

But the bombpath markers, alarm zone, and hatch explosion are all implemented in the current version. I'll have to take a look at the demo files for anything else, though, though I know scale has been a concern for a while. It is a delibirate design choice, but I totally understand the concern with it and depending on how it plays I'm planning on making it a semi-gatebot map (I have a second wide-open area near the town that I can connect bot spawns to).

As for the cliff and front areas, I have measured everything to make it mimic other medieval maps (specifically, degroot keep and burghausen). This isn't deflection of criticism, I understand that it might not translate well to MVM, I just want to make it clear that these areas are scaled this way on purpose.

@Asd417 Hi, I think you may have missed an important detail in the map. The map is meant to be played in medieval mode, not in the regular MVM format (This is my mistake, I thought that I had clarified it in the main body post but I did not). The reason there is no medieval logic is because we are performing medieval restrictions via a server plugin in order to loosen the constraints on mission design.

This is the reason for the lack of cover as well as the ledge (to provide a quick path to the front in a mode where there are no teleporters).

Added intermediate, made some changes to advanced + the robot popfile in general.

Download V2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d53zm0fqg9jmo93/Frostwynd.zip?dl=0

It's not perfect, but I sadly didnt have enough time to 100% polish everything before the initial submission deadline. I hope to work out all of the kinks before Sept 1st.

Currently, only advanced (Made by Swordstone) is in a playable state. Intermediate will follow soon.

I hope you still enjoy it, however!

Download V1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d53zm0fqg9jmo93/Frostwynd.zip?dl=0

Name: Frostwynd
Entry Type: Map
Contributors: Signalmax , Swordstone

NOTE: This map is meant to be played in the medieval format. I currently dont know if Hydrogen's medieval restriction plugin is working on the servers yet, so just in case it isnt, then please test using only medieval-allowed weapons.

Okay, just a quick thing because nobody has mentioned it yet: remove those flickering lights. The way dynamic lights like that work in source is weird, but it boils down to it making a unique lightmap for *every single combination of dynamic lights you have*, which increases your file size DRAMATICALLY. The tiny bit of extra detail isnt worth the file size and performance hit they cause.

Obligatory all of my maps:

1. Coastrock
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1231287299
2. Waterfront
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=947749085
3. Metro
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=792857459
4. Meltdown
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=546248385

Feel free to contact me if you're planning on making a mission for any of these maps, I can help answer questions about logic/general mission design relating to these maps!

Anyway, here are some actual nominations:

1. Steep
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1204988012&searchtext=
2. Havana
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1089026871&searchtext=
3. Area 52
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512422248&searchtext=
4. Powerplant
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=580052046&searchtext=
5. Teien
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=942906984&searchtext=