Definitely not. Hope not. See the end of unuusal trading if that happens.

Originally posted by ♥King of Hurts♥:

Definitely not. Hope not. See the end of unuusal trading if that happens.

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Hey

There are a number of sites that have access to easy to organise / filter methods that provide users options to sort of items by price and other attributes; These include (But are not restricted to):
- Trade.Tf
- Steam Community Market (SCM)
- Backback.Tf (Classifieds)
- Bazaar.Tf (Displays Prices of items)
- Scrap.Tf and other Shop bots also sell and Buy item for set prices
- TF2 Warehouse

Those sites are all easy to deal with, and I do trade using their respective services - however, the primary reason I enjoy dealing with Outpost, over the rest - is that it is a relatively FREE MARKET (To quite a large extent).

Trading on Outpost is not just a monotonous process - sometimes it may take time, however - there are a number of users that enjoy it as that is the idea behind an open market - you need to look for good deals, there are plenty of "bad" ones as well. The fact that traders selling above and below the market chance have a fairer chance vs a process that rewards the lowest priced trader, represents a true market that allows all traders to thrive in their respective areas of trade

A service that encourages trade and allows users to be creative and rewards innovative marketing, however, one that ensures discipline and rules - is a very commendable endevour.

Trading is already pretty simple thanks to all the sites that offer great services to users - I don't believe that Outpost needs to mimic a similar format in order to move forward.



"Quoting the words of a TF2 Outpost Admin - Blue Screen of Dea†h:

"We do not regulate or enforce prices and we have no plans on doing so. People are free to set their own prices and negotiate a better deal, and pricing guides should be used only as an estimate of an item's value. "Worth" is a very relative word".[/i]

SOURCES (From the Forum):
- " Trading and Selling "Prices" " - https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/0/558754260265313230/
- " Prices of items on the site " - https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/0/684839199208805599/
- "Prices on Tf2" - https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/0/558756168126105786/ "

that is a valid point, and i will certainly take a look at using those other websites.

still, i can't help but feel there should be a way to divide the people who are genuinely interested in the items and ''quick buyers'' or however those autobumping cunts call themselves ~excuse my foul language.

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

that is a valid point, and i will certainly take a look at using those other websites.

still, i can't help but feel there should be a way to divide the people who are genuinely interested in the items and ''quick buyers'' or however those autobumping cunts call themselves ~excuse my foul language.

I don't see the relation between premium users and quickbuyers here. You don't have to have premium to search for quicksells. In fact I don't see any more premiums asking for quicksells than free users. And also, regarding my first comment, Terminus pretty much answered it.

Originally posted by ♥King of Hurts♥:

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

that is a valid point, and i will certainly take a look at using those other websites.

still, i can't help but feel there should be a way to divide the people who are genuinely interested in the items and ''quick buyers'' or however those autobumping cunts call themselves ~excuse my foul language.

I don't see the relation between premium users and quickbuyers here. You don't have to have premium to search for quicksells. In fact I don't see any more premiums asking for quicksells than free users. And also, regarding my first comment, Terminus pretty much answered it.

i don't recall mentioning premium users ever

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

Originally posted by ♥King of Hurts♥:

I don't see the relation between premium users and quickbuyers here. You don't have to have premium to search for quicksells. In fact I don't see any more premiums asking for quicksells than free users. And also, regarding my first comment, Terminus pretty much answered it.

i don't recall mentioning premium users ever

Autobump=premium

Originally posted by ♥King of Hurts♥:

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

i don't recall mentioning premium users ever

Autobump=premium

oh.

well my point remains that there's a difference between people who just want to trade items they want to use in-game and people who just go around wasting others' time with bullshit trades, and that i strongly dislike one of the afromentioned groups.

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

Originally posted by ♥King of Hurts♥:

Autobump=premium

oh.

well my point remains that there's a difference between people who just want to trade items they want to use in-game and people who just go around wasting others' time with bullshit trades, and that i strongly dislike one of the afromentioned groups.

And would that group be the first group? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jokes there, but traders trade for profit, sure though, I get sometimes overpricings hats too much is just a waste of space but people are free to ask whatever they want. If they sell vastly overpriced items then no one will buy and they will eventually have to keep lowering until it's in the zone where people will actually pay for them.

Originally posted by ♥King of Hearts♥:

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

oh.

well my point remains that there's a difference between people who just want to trade items they want to use in-game and people who just go around wasting others' time with bullshit trades, and that i strongly dislike one of the afromentioned groups.

And would that group be the first group? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jokes there, but traders trade for profit, sure though, I get sometimes overpricings hats too much is just a waste of space but people are free to ask whatever they want. If they sell vastly overpriced items then no one will buy and they will eventually have to keep lowering until it's in the zone where people will actually pay for them.

~if only~
but sellers are not the people i'm talking about, at all, really

i rarely meet sellers who go *way* over bptf price, they're usually just trying to get rid of an item

but buyers... ew.

falling back to the point you were making; sellers get to ask whatever they want, if they ask too much their items won't sell and the joke's on them, simple as that. the problem with ''buyers'' being that (obviously) unlike sellers, they don't have ti actualy own an item to be able to ''use'' it in their trade, so for example a person looking to buy craft hats can add all kinds of ''expensive'' items in their ''want space'' point eing that when they do that their trade will appear in in all search results for people trying to sell an item >>for example i've currently got an essential accesories i'm trying to sell, but when i'm trying to look for being who might be interested i get all kinds of bullshit craft hat trades offering one ref for it...

do you understand my struggle -or better said; mein kampf?

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

Originally posted by ♥King of Hearts♥:

And would that group be the first group? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jokes there, but traders trade for profit, sure though, I get sometimes overpricings hats too much is just a waste of space but people are free to ask whatever they want. If they sell vastly overpriced items then no one will buy and they will eventually have to keep lowering until it's in the zone where people will actually pay for them.

~if only~
but sellers are not the people i'm talking about, at all, really

i rarely meet sellers who go *way* over bptf price, they're usually just trying to get rid of an item

but buyers... ew.

falling back to the point you were making; sellers get to ask whatever they want, if they ask too much their items won't sell and the joke's on them, simple as that. the problem with ''buyers'' being that (obviously) unlike sellers, they don't have ti actualy own an item to be able to ''use'' it in their trade, so for example a person looking to buy craft hats can add all kinds of ''expensive'' items in their ''want space'' point eing that when they do that their trade will appear in in all search results for people trying to sell an item >>for example i've currently got an essential accesories i'm trying to sell, but when i'm trying to look for being who might be interested i get all kinds of bullshit craft hat trades offering one ref for it...

do you understand my struggle -or better said; mein kampf?

I don't know if "Mein Kampf" would exactly be a better phrase than just "my struggle" in this context but ok. :P

Sure. I guess, but you can just decline. A lot of players don't know item prices and somehow don't backpack.tf at low tier hats. You just have to decline, not much else you can do. From experience since there are so many craft items, outpost is not the best place to find buyers for your stuff unless it's one of those popular hats everyone wants like an anger or whatever. Also, essential accessories with paint sounds hard to sell to me. Painted items are a pain to sell, I don't buy them because 90% of the time I don't like the paint and would not overpay for them. I can't think of a cure for low offers either, I feel like it's just something we'll have to deal with.

Originally posted by ♥King of Hearts♥:

Originally posted by Phillip the mildly obese mouse:

~if only~
but sellers are not the people i'm talking about, at all, really

i rarely meet sellers who go *way* over bptf price, they're usually just trying to get rid of an item

but buyers... ew.

falling back to the point you were making; sellers get to ask whatever they want, if they ask too much their items won't sell and the joke's on them, simple as that. the problem with ''buyers'' being that (obviously) unlike sellers, they don't have ti actualy own an item to be able to ''use'' it in their trade, so for example a person looking to buy craft hats can add all kinds of ''expensive'' items in their ''want space'' point eing that when they do that their trade will appear in in all search results for people trying to sell an item >>for example i've currently got an essential accesories i'm trying to sell, but when i'm trying to look for being who might be interested i get all kinds of bullshit craft hat trades offering one ref for it...

do you understand my struggle -or better said; mein kampf?

I don't know if "Mein Kampf" would exactly be a better phrase than just "my struggle" in this context but ok. :P

Sure. I guess, but you can just decline. A lot of players don't know item prices and somehow don't backpack.tf at low tier hats. You just have to decline, not much else you can do. From experience since there are so many craft items, outpost is not the best place to find buyers for your stuff unless it's one of those popular hats everyone wants like an anger or whatever. Also, essential accessories with paint sounds hard to sell to me. Painted items are a pain to sell, I don't buy them because 90% of the time I don't like the paint and would not overpay for them. I can't think of a cure for low offers either, I feel like it's just something we'll have to deal with.

it is true, not many people are willing to pay for paints, not even the casual 50%

but i'd be willing to live with that you know, problem being that hardly anyone even offers bptf base values, disregarding the paint.