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ambatu bus 7 May, 2015 @ 9:47pm
Regular members, what do you think?
First of all, this is not an appeal, I know the rules of posting appeals on the forums now.

So, what happened was I asked someone I knew if I can buy his unusual, he said sure and I asked how much. He says 4 ref, and I agreed with it. Note that he KNOWS what he did fully and completely.

I sold it and it turns out the value was very high, higher than what the guy paid me for it. I reported him for sharking, and I admit I did not have enough evidence to prove it, but it was just on a whim and I was just very furious at the time.

Stuff leads to stuff and moderator finds out I bought the unusual for 4 ref only. He thinks I sharked it out of the previous owner and now I'm perma-banned.

The question is, for you guys in the community, what do you think about how TF2OP considers getting a good deal as sharking?

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the ORIGINAL unboxer is the guy I traded with.
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Nooge 8 May, 2015 @ 12:57am 
I think this ban was totally justifiable, considering you bought an unusual for an insanely low price. Without any proof of course it's going to be considered a shark.
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ambatu bus 8 May, 2015 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by Nooge:
I think this ban was totally justifiable, considering you bought an unusual for an insanely low price. Without any proof of course it's going to be considered a shark.

Well in my defense they could ask the guy themselves, I gave the moderator the name and profile link of the person I traded with and he seemed to have done nothing but ask for it, never adding him.
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cy 8 May, 2015 @ 2:29am 
Moderators won't go out of their way to make your appeal look righteous, this is your appeal so you should provide the counter-proof.

Don't expect to be given right to complain and sympathy from the community when this entire case looks like a greedy sharker trying to get more out of their sharked unusual, if this is really a misconstruction, then you should provide counter-proof backing up your plead of innocence.
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ambatu bus 8 May, 2015 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Cye:
...you should provide counter-proof backing up your plead of innocence.

This is exactly what I CANNOT DO. I have provided all the evidence I can get on my own.

The only thing that can clear this mess up is if the admins/moderators talk to the guy I traded with and confirm it for themselves that the only thing I did was accept a good deal that he fully knew the consequences of.

EDIT: All I ask is for the admins to add him and let him speak for himself, give his own testimony, but so far it's been nothing but a misunderstanding and accusations.
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ReTired xPert ツ 8 May, 2015 @ 4:53am 
So, just to get it right, let me recap your story. So you found that experienced unusual trader who fully knowingly sold you his unusual for 0.04% of its value. Then you went on your journey and sold the hat again. But because you are a not so experienced unusual trader you realized that after fully knowingly selling this hat for 1200 times more than you bought it for this is only 60% of its value.

Now with fully knowing the outpost rules of sharking (make someone unexperienced pay less than 20% of the value) you decided to report that guy to who you fully knowingly sold your hat for sharking.

Is that about right? Well, what do i think about that? Im trading in TF2 since day one, i have seen a lot, lot of greedy people but even more really, really dumb people and thought i have seen it all ... then i found you.
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ambatu bus 8 May, 2015 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by ReTired ツ:

First of all I did not say he was experienced at all, nor did I say I was too. All I said was that we both fully knew that unusuals are worth more than uniques. I myself don't even know what the price of the unusual I sold until it was too late. And I admit that the report was stupid, as I said it was only out of anger and realization that I could've gotten more with it.

And I actually did not fully know about the Outpost rules of sharking, I only knew what the general definition means and that people can get in trouble for doing it. So yeah..

Thanks for all your opinions, everyone. Whatever the outcome of this is, I'll fully accept it.
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