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Jacob 23 Dec, 2013 @ 6:32pm
Closed trades :(
Hello!

Sry, if I'm posting in inappropriate place, but I don't know where it would be appropriate..

I'm confused, please, help me! Admin or mod "Blue Screen of Dea†h" has closed a lot of my trades with the following reason: Rule #4: No relists. (example: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10871789). I agree, that technically it breaks that rule, but logically - I disagree. If all my trades (or anyone's) are with the same goal - selling weps for metal, then u also will close those trades?? Really?? Or what was the problem, what he didn't liked?

I'm selling weapons, there are 120+ regular weps and I want that anyone can find all weps, which I'm selling.. So how should I make my trades so they won't be closed? If every trade has limit to 8 weps only? It means, that I need at least 16 trades to show all my weps! On bazaar there is no limit to trade's item quantity, so I made there only 1 trade for all weps that I'm selling..

Please, explain or suggest how to do that, so I don't have to worry for closing my trades in the future.

Thanks in advance,
Jacob
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Hudson 23 Dec, 2013 @ 6:33pm 
They all say you're selling most of your weapons, so they're all the same trade relisted.
Jacob 23 Dec, 2013 @ 6:46pm 
People are searching by items, not by trade notes..
Every single trade you made listed the same thing in your notes, you hade the same 5 weps in every trade note; priced the exact same even when they weren't displayed up top...
Last edited by anakin whore walker; 23 Dec, 2013 @ 7:28pm
Jacob 23 Dec, 2013 @ 7:39pm 
I don't think, that the problem is in the trade notes.. The rule states: #4 No relists. Relisting is creating multiple trades for the same purpose or listing the same item in multiple trades excessively. You cannot have multiple trades open with the same goal, and you cannot have an excessive number of trades open for the same item.
So the problem is in creating multiple trades for the same purpose (selling 120+ weps?) or multiple trades open with the same goal (metal or random weps?).. Because I wasn't listing the same item in multiple trades excessively nor I didn't had an excessive number of trades open for the same item.
Last edited by Jacob; 23 Dec, 2013 @ 7:51pm
If you are selling all your weapons then either (1) list every single weapon once (# of weapons / 8 = # of trades), or (2) have one trade saying you are selling all of them. Anything and everything else would be a relist.
Jacob 24 Dec, 2013 @ 8:47am 
Could u be so kind, and explain precisely - which part of that rule (or how) I had violated, by your opinion?
Last edited by Jacob; 24 Dec, 2013 @ 8:57am
LiddoJunior 24 Dec, 2013 @ 9:18am 
Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
Could u be so kind, and explain precisely - which part of that rule (or how) I had violated, by your opinion?

You pointed it out your self in bold, above.

Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
Selling most of my regular weps only for:
1 scrap or 2 clean weps each!
With few exceptions listed below.

!!! I have ALL regular weps for sale !!!

The purpose of the trades were to sell all your regular weapons for the same price.
Relisting is creating the trades with the same goal(s) or item(s)
Last edited by LiddoJunior; 24 Dec, 2013 @ 9:18am
Jacob 24 Dec, 2013 @ 10:06am 
So u mean, that u have to close 3/4 of all outpost trades, because people are selling items for metal or keys?? Because at least 3/4 or even more of all trades has the goal in getting metal or keys..
Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
So u mean, that u have to close 3/4 of all outpost trades, because people are selling items for metal or keys?? Because at least 3/4 or even more of all trades has the goal in getting metal or keys..

Stop it. Your goal was to sell all your weapons, and if you have 2 trades selling all your weapons that's a relist.
Jacob 24 Dec, 2013 @ 10:22am 
I cann't list all my weps in 2 trades.. that's impossible.
Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
I cann't list all my weps in 2 trades.. that's impossible.

That's what trade notes are for. Bold part:

If you are selling all your weapons then either (1) list every single weapon once (# of weapons / 8 = # of trades), or (2) have one trade saying you are selling all of them. Anything and everything else would be a relist.
Last edited by Blue Screen of Death; 24 Dec, 2013 @ 10:28am
Jacob 24 Dec, 2013 @ 10:39am 
As I said before:

Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
People are searching by items, not by trade notes..

So u mean, that the problem is that in all those trades I mentioned that I'm selling all weps, so if I delete that string, everything will be OK? And u're not going to close all my trades in the future?
Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
As I said before:

Originally posted by Jacob S> all weps:
People are searching by items, not by trade notes..

So u mean, that the problem is that in all those trades I mentioned that I'm selling all weps, so if I delete that string, everything will be OK? And u're not going to close all my trades in the future?

No, because we know that's your intent. Either list all your weapons in a lot of trades, or sell of all them in just one. Stop trying to get around the rule.
Jacob 24 Dec, 2013 @ 11:23am 
Come on dude, I'm not trying to get around the rule, I'm trying to understand, what exactly I did wrong! How did I violated that rule?

I had listed all my weps in a lot of trades, as u say (Either list all your weapons in a lot of trades), but u closed almost all of them.. So what was the problem, why did u closed them?
As far as I understand, problem could be in the following:
1. I listed all my weps in 17 trades.. But how else I can list them all?? So the people could find any of my selling wep.. I wasn't "listing the same item in multiple trades excessively".
2. The problem was in the goal? Getting metal or the random weps/items for them? How can I change that? I'm trying to be flexible, so the buyers can choose the best payment method that suites for them..
3. Mentioning in trade notes, that I'm selling all weps [that's not a list!?].. If I would list all weapon names in the all trade notes, that would be re-listing, right? Or listing exclusions, which prices differs because of high demand and low supply? But that's a necessary info!! I'm saving my and potencial buyers time!
Please, help me understand!
Nose 24 Dec, 2013 @ 11:27am 
All of your trades have the same purpose. What you can do is put the random weapon icon to say that you are selling all weapons in your backpack. And as for people who are searching for your weapons, that'll be a small sacrifice you'll have to make. You are trying to evade the rules by advertising your items in more than one trade, these extra trades being for the same purpose.

If you don't feel the need to follow outpost rules, you can feel free to use another site.
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