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EnIgMaTiCoRaNgE 11 Oct, 2013 @ 8:01pm
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14888135
Bluescreenofdeath,

You made personal contact with me inside my trade inquiring about where the item in the trade was. I let you know it was not in my bag and I had it sitting on the steam community market. I followed by wondering what the problem could be and then stating that the item history did not look fishy... You told me specifically that "The item history doesn't matter, it's not in your backpack - you should make this clear."

I have no problem with following your ruling, but I have not found your requirement in the site rules... Also, there is no place to directly talk to you because you make it clear on your profile not to add you, so here I am...

If it is not too much, I would like to know why this was really made an issue in my trade. Is it indeed against the rules to not state if an item is in my bag or not? It makes little sense to me if there is no formal rule. Besides, there was no effort at all made with me to inquire about any item I had posted recently by any user. This makes me think you and the report system might have been used in an attempt at a personal attack against me.

Also, I was not intentionally being argumentative in the trade notes, I had just posted before I realized your posting of "people are reporting" statement. I suppose you might not respond to this in any way because you are likely way too busy to worry about my concern - if so Ill just continue to adhere to a special rule just for me if that is what it is.

Thank you for your time and effort,
-Daniel
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Currier Bell 11 Oct, 2013 @ 9:46pm 
People reporting others for things tend to clog up the system. The reason a mod would stumble on your trade was more than likely someone reporting you for not having what you are trading, which is against the rules. They had no way of knowing that your item was in the market.

Blue screen was only making a suggestion when saying you should have stated the hat was on the market to clear up any possible confusion.
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EnIgMaTiCoRaNgE 11 Oct, 2013 @ 10:04pm 
Fair enough.
Thank you for the response.
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Blue Screen of Death 11 Oct, 2013 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by Currier Bell:
People reporting others for things tend to clog up the system. The reason a mod would stumble on your trade was more than likely someone reporting you for not having what you are trading, which is against the rules. They had no way of knowing that your item was in the market.

Blue screen was only making a suggestion when saying you should have stated the hat was on the market to clear up any possible confusion.

That's pretty much it. The logic is:

1) Item is advertised.
2) People open the trade and then your backpack.
3) They don't find it so it's either an expired or inactive trade (for them).
4) They report the trade.
5) We see the report and check if the item is in your backpack. If it's not then you either sold it or put for sale on the market.
6) If it has not been sold, I ask you the whereabouts of the item.

Like I said in the trade, you could have just put a message saying the item was currently listed on Steam Marketplace, but instead you closed the trade and came here...

The rule you mention is under the common sense rule. A person cannot advertise/sell things they don't really own.

Note: Most rules are common sense and it would therefore be impossible to list all the things you could do to get yourself banned. This page is not acting as a complete list of bannable offenses — it instead aims to clear up some confusion about those rules that may not be obvious. All moderators and admins have the power to close trades as they see fit (with reason, of course). No ranks exempt you from the site rules. Users with premium status will not be refunded any duration of time lost if banned. Permanent bans will result in permanent revocation of premium status.

I don't accept random adds, but I also mention that people should post on my profile if they need to contact me.
Last edited by Blue Screen of Death; 11 Oct, 2013 @ 10:08pm
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EnIgMaTiCoRaNgE 11 Oct, 2013 @ 10:12pm 
Right. Understood. Thanks for the response.
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