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Deffy 15 Jun, 2013 @ 5:00pm
Question.
I realized, that humans need 7 hours of sleep every day. This is very unfortunate for me as a trader, since I'm somehow unable to trade while I'm asleep. So I was very happy about that bazaar.tf implemented their "Buy now" feature. Now, my question is, whether it is allowed to post bazaar links in my trades on outpost (for the exact same item) whenever I'm about to go sleep in case someone would want to buy my items while I was offline. I didn't find anything about other trading sites in rules, so I'm asking here. Thanks for your response.
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Rule #1: No spamming — this includes both trade notes and offers. Spam is considered:
- Posting links to unrelated websites in offers (backpacks and steam profiles are acceptable).
norby89 16 Jun, 2013 @ 1:53am 
I really hope Sneeza is considering such a feature. Even if it's for lv4 donators, since the site has a massive userbase it would require a lot of bots. At least backpack expanders are cheap..
Deffy 16 Jun, 2013 @ 2:09am 
Yeah, agreed. Bots make trading really faster and I don't need be online so often.
There are a lot of things to consider when it comes to implementing such a feature:

1) Bots add more load to the server(s);
2) They require constant supervision and maintenance (thanks to Steam);
3) There will always be a shortage of bots to handle the user base;
4) Many people will try to launder stolen/hijacked items through these bots, and they will be trade banned/locked every once in a while because of this and other minor issues;
5) Automated trading is not the goal of TF2OP (there are many other sites for that);
6) People will try to impersonate these bots, and this will generate more scam reports and more work to the TF2OP and SR admins;
norby89 16 Jun, 2013 @ 5:34pm 
Yes there are many things to take into consideration, still it isn't anything far-fetched or impossible. Just take a look at TF2WH and scrap.tf. Currently there are no proper sites for automated trading so if OP could do that, that would be amazing.
Ziri 16 Jun, 2013 @ 7:17pm 
Outpost has a huge userbase. Implimenting such a feature would require hundreds of bot account, and frankly, aint nobody got time for that. I think WH has like 86 bots or something like that, imagine Outpost's bot count. If this happened, it wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of fee though, because there'll be a lot of time and money put into this feature.

In other words, I'm just re-phrasing shit already covered by Blue Screen.
Currier Bell 16 Jun, 2013 @ 7:56pm 
In my opinion, I believe that it would be a wasted effort to try and create automated bots for general use on Outpost. The currently popular bot services out there (warehouse/scrap.tf) already cover most lower valued items like weapons and craftable hats, and even some do common currency items like earbuds. If Outpost were to do something like this, they would have to put some limitations on it, or else it'd lead to countless people using bots for things like scrapbanking and "BUYING ALL CRAFT HATS FOR 1 REFINED".

If it could be for a higher class of donator and/or be limited to items valued to multiple keys and above, then I'd be for it. If not, I wouldn't ask Sneeza to waste his time.
Chaos 17 Jun, 2013 @ 12:02am 
Not a bad idea, but would require a shit ton of bots. Doing so would most likely result in the need of a fee for use of these, and not from regular tf2 items, by PayPal. If sneeza were to do this, he would probably have to make a premium kind of concept, like on backpack.tf, so users could use this.
norby89 17 Jun, 2013 @ 1:25am 
Originally posted by Pretender:
Outpost has a huge userbase. Implimenting such a feature would require hundreds of bot account, and frankly, aint nobody got time for that. I think WH has like 86 bots or something like that, imagine Outpost's bot count. If this happened, it wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of fee though, because there'll be a lot of time and money put into this feature.
Hence why it could be reserved for lv4 donators, it would give more incentive for big traders to donate. It wouldn't be cheap but it would be worth it. 50 bots with maxed out inventory could hold up to 100000 items. I'm not sure how much resources these bots would eat but I guess there's a way to run them so they use as little as possible (else WH wouldn't be operational). I also heard of extreme cases of item farming where someone had more than 5000 accounts and was planning to get 10000 before Valve banned him.

Either way I think this is something that shouldn't be dismissed right away and should still be considered. Is it worth it, would it only bring problems? I don't know. One thing is for sure though, if bazaar.tf pulls this off properly, a lot of people will start using it.
Last edited by norby89; 17 Jun, 2013 @ 1:31am
I find such feature very hard to maintain without a monthly fee. Donations would not be enough. And the fee wouldn't be low either. Probably a couple staff members would need to oversee these bots 24/7, and that can't be done without a paycheck.
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Date Posted: 15 Jun, 2013 @ 5:00pm
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