The trade age is not my point. I'm just amazed how stupid people can be and sell a 6 ref worth item for 1 ref. I'm not going that far. Actually, I do. I posted an All-father for 1.8 keys to see if that really applies. It does not. But if I see All-fathers getting sold for 2 keys then I start to question myself why people do these non-profit trades and the sellers get so much attention and profit unlike me.

Originally posted by HusKy:

And your point is?

People sell/ buy for ridiculous prices, like the trade I posted before. They get a massive amount of customers.
However, when people sell/ buy for fair prices, they get no customer.
What's that sort of a question anyways?

How come this trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15123556 has bought a Chronomancer for 1 REF while it's like 6 REF? What the fuck is going on with logic nowadays? Can you explain me that, CocoaNut Cakery? Or someone else?

I managed to sell a festive flame thrower for 1 key and 1.44ref. For some reason a korean bought it from me in under a week without negiotating. Like wtf? It was one hell of an expensive trade and it's cheaper than a key on the market.

Wait, if you buy a trading card which is usually 1 scrap which is 0.03€ And then sell it on the market you only get 0.01€. That ain't profit.

So, in my eyes, TF2 trading cannot be advanced without using legal ways to trade without allowing Gabe Newell to buy snickers= using money. Let's get some points straight:

-Everyone wants to buy items for a ridiculously low price and vice versa. This is why you'd never get customers without making profit.
-Key prices keep rising.
-There are more knowledged traders than F2Ps.
-Weapons won't sell at 1 scrap to anyone.
-Lazy people use cheap bots.
-There are no non-profit trades to keep the economy stable.

I have no idea. I'm literally stuck and can't advance. Don't tell me to get a job because I won't get one. Neither tell me to get PayPal.

Sharking seems like an option for me to atleast go one step richer. The "Buy low and sell high" tactic just ain't working anymore.

Or is there hope? What kind of tactic do you use without money? Or has TF2 officially become Pay-2-Win?

Why is it like about 50% of all trades I see are operated by bots? That is a ton. Why does everyone have one or more trading bots here while they are hard as phuk to obtain? Why can't I have one?

Just WHY?

Thank you for correcting me norby. I was just shocked that the space between the prices are so large.

I was referring to Gabe Newell's response to "When will be HL2ep3 released?". Teh lulz.

Originally posted by NeonSide_:

It would good that you guys could accept tf2 items...

That, and is there a problem with the rank changing stuff?

When I'm looking at the trades nowadays, I feel very disappointed. Look, someone is selling a key for SIX refined and someone wants to buy it for only FIVE refined. One wants to buy vintage gunboats for 0.22ref and someone wants to sell them for 1.33ref. One buys a new misc for 1.22 and the other sells it for a KEY.

There has been alot of sharking out there. I don't know if it's right to do that but I'm near with the prices on backpack.tf
If I ask for a price correction, they just flame at me with the "Deal with it" style. Now that's wrong.

So... What do you think about it? Am I right or am I dumb?