Originally posted by Behold the Robes:

Originally posted by Ruff Ryders Entertainment:

Selling for 9 buds is deceptive too. They used to be around that before this update. Now if you sell it for 9 buds, you actually suggest its still worth around that and its manipulative/deceptive.
You are misleading vulnerable people. The people who fall for this don't know about this update. While anyone can create a untradable v. luger with 10 or 11 keys. And when you offer it on unusual worth +6/8 buds then you dont have to tell me that it is ethical

Untradable Lugermorphs are 0.66, Untradable Vintage Lugermorphs are unpriced. You're thinking of uncraftable ones, which are priced 9-13 buds.
Vulnerable people don't have 9-13 buds to spare.
As far as offering items on other people's trades, that's on the seller of such items to actually review the offer they receive, not the site. Speaking of Ethical, "Quickbuying" is on the same floor. Not a problem at all tho.

I am not talking about uncraftables ones. You seem new to trading and outpost. Dont really have time to explain all to you, read the info I put and what I wrote. Vulnerable people are those who didn't catch up up with latest update, they are hard to find, but they exist as I had proven. Multiple people have fallen for this. Quickbuying isn't on same floor. Thats trading.

Originally posted by Behold the Robes:

The deception only begins on lying about the item backstory, that is indeed sanctionable and people doing so should be punished.
But that's the only thing that should be punished, selling a Untradable Vintage Lugermorph for 9 buds is in no way breaking any rule on outpost, as much as selling a #22277 weapon for 4 keys is.

Selling for 9 buds is deceptive too. They used to be around that before this update. Now if you sell it for 9 buds, you actually suggest its still worth around that and its manipulative/deceptive.
You are misleading vulnerable people. The people who fall for this don't know about this update. While anyone can create a untradable v. luger with 10 or 11 keys. And when you offer it on unusual worth +6/8 buds then you dont have to tell me that it is ethical

Originally posted by Behold the Robes:

Originally posted by Hatless ZombieHunter:

Please learn to read. We don't want to restrict any items, but punish those who shark people with U. V. Luger.

Are you also going to punish people selling weapons for a scrap? This is a genuine question
I don't think there's a need to do take action against people selling promo items for outrageous prices as much as there isn't need to take action against people buying items for 70% of their listed value for the same exact reason: Let the market fix it

So according to you sharking is allowed?

I don't think you get it. You are comparing 2 different things. Sharking is not the same as normal trading. Manipulating and sharking is not allowed on tf2op. Deceptive trade, read the rules.

Also it isn't a glitch anymore. But lying to people about it does matter.

Originally posted by Hatless ZombieHunter:

Originally posted by Ruff Ryders Entertainment:

He sold it with a lowtier unusual for a vintage parasite to a unkowing buyer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19674927

This was after people told peasant how to make and that it is not special. Since no action was taken he managed to scam

Do you have evidence of this trade? If yes we should report him to steamrep.com

Sharking is not a reportable offensive on steamrep. But on outpost sharking and deceptive trading tactics are bannable. So tf2op admins can only take actions

He sold it with a lowtier unusual for a vintage parasite to a unkowing buyer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19674927

This was after people told peasant how to make and that it is not special. Since no action was taken he managed to scam

Originally posted by Hatless ZombieHunter:

Originally posted by Ruff Ryders Entertainment:

Poor guy didn't know about the trick. I warned him on time
http://puu.sh/8BF0v.png

imo it's a bannable offensive. Its basically tricking / manipulating the users

He still uses his offer in a new trade, I told him to remove it.

I rather had not my screen with my name on the trade but nvm
You should have waited till he came online and see what he did (removing c/o or keep a fake c/o). Then more action could be taken

Poor guy didn't know about the trick. I warned him on time
http://puu.sh/8BF0v.png

imo it's a bannable offensive. Its basically tricking / manipulating the users

How it works
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/10385-%E2%88%9Agenius-profiting-idea%E2%88%9A/

Basically you get a v. luger and apply untradable items to the killstreak kit set to make it untradable.
It can be done cheap. People offer those for ridiculous prices. You have to post it on many trades so eventually someone falls for this scam
People are misusing this, for example: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19640962
EDIT offcourse he closed his trade and made a new one after people were pointing it out
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19645604

Offered on other hats like
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16798681
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19630115#latest

Is this allowed?

So its officially allowed to use dispenser.tf links on tf2op? One of my trades got closed once for advertising, long time ago tho

Yes it happened, with real life trading too (maybe even more). This has always been the case with trading. You can't do much about. Just don't have too high expectations of offers. Not all of them are serious