Man, I've seen you on like five different sites trying to find someone to answer you immedietly about this issue, even tho you've already been old where to go and what to do. I've never seen someone so persistant even when theyre told to wait

If you are using the internet of someone who is marked a scammer and banned, then yes, you will be banned as well. Not for just using a different IP.

Originally posted by DJCaseyD:

yeah, I may be seeing things. Today has just been goofy as far as adding people. I'm probably crazy. lol

Haha, don't blame yourself, it's not the first time Volvo has done something that severely (or completely) slows things down. Even if they did impliment some phishing measure, I have a feeling that an update like that would cause so many errors making so many other things slow and unusable that it would just create more problems than it solves.

Originally posted by DJCaseyD:

It's taking forever to add people since you guys did whatever it is you did. You add via trade.tf and it takes an hour for them to show up on your friend list. adding bp people doesn't.

showing up on your friends list doesn't have anything to do with outpost, because the friends list is on steam

Bottom line:

Paypal

- Verified
- Trustworthy
- Populur
- Secure
- Extremely Reputable with minimal chargeback

Skrill

- Unknown
- Unknown
- Unpopular
- Trustworthy? Unknown.
- Unknown
- Secure?? Unknown.
- Safe? Unknown...
- Hardly any chargebacks because nobody uses the site for these ^ reasons.

I (and most everyone else) doesn't know much at all about Skrill, dispite my months of online trading/using sites like Paypal, and that is exactly the reason why I should not just let it "replace paypal". Not until it receives more trafic, is proven trustworthy, is more popylar from within the trading community, and is proven to be extremely reputable and secure/safe like Paypal has proven to be on so many occasions.

I guess that's fair enough. Usually I would find something to retort but I actually can't disagree with what was said above. Best to just keep looking for something that is both practical and effective and hope it comes sooner than later.

Originally posted by norby89:

Captchas are a useless counter-measure and will never be implemented. They do nothing but annoy legit users and if anything bots can solve captchas without user intervention. As long as there's profit to be made phishers won't be intimidated by simple captchas.

#1: I am a "legit user" although no real definition has been made about what a "legit user" even is, so I may not be. Where's the line from a non-legit user, to "legit"? What defines that.

2. I would be painfully less annoyed with having to enter a captcha than having 2 pishers add me everytime I bump a trade.
And before someone goes and states the opposite, that right there is a cold hard fact; the "legit users" can only express their want for something like a captcha to be implmented so many times before simply getting tired of the admins responding with "The legit users think it's annoying" . Look at the FACTS, ladies and gentleman, it's what we want!

3. The fact that all the big shots are looking for an option that would "work 100% of the time". Quite plainly, that's completely absured! You cannot seriously say "this one solution won't solve it 100% so we won't even try to use it if it helped 60%" (for example).
It's taken you all this long to realize that "there's nothing we can do because there are no soluions" and it's taken you this long to start blaming people who have nothing to do with the problem, nor who are in any way shape or form responsible for it, for "not coming forward wih a 100% foolprof solution", but what have you been doing to try and solve this? Take some responsibility for your actions (or lack thereof).

tl;dr - Something has to be done, regardless of if it will work "100% of the time", and you know it.
I think the people who are trying to find solutions to this issue (I should say, doing the exact opposite because "there are no 100% prof solutions") are at the point where they can nolonger wait for a solution to magically present itself out of nowhere that will work 100% of the time, when clearly there is absolutely no obvious sign whatsoever of something like that happening any time soon.

Your donation wouldn't "expire" if you didn't stop paying, you know..Just an observation

Originally posted by Mr.Rager:

that's what you did.

Originally posted by Mr.Rager:

you contribute the problems of giveaways and why we don't have them as often.

Sounds to me more like a blind accusation rather than an factual provable offense. No prof other than "thats what we banned some other guy for so clearly thats what you were banned for too"

I'm not trying to point or insinuate anything, I just don't understand how that can possibly be a thing.