Originally posted by norby89:

Originally posted by The Once and Future King:

Advice is really wrong in this context since we are already following it so there is not need to tell us to keep doing the same thing we already are.

There is no advice that will make dumb people be less dumb than they already are. It might be obvious to you but there people out there who aren't aware of that yet they still complain. There is no solution to human stupidity, all you can do is minimize the problem for yourself and the advice in this thread is pretty much all you can do about it.

Which is exactly why blocking them is the best option.

Originally posted by Not_Duck:

My advice isn't wrong, it just helps with decreasing the issue from arising, trust me, I deal with thousands of reports and I see this all the time. Again, this advice will not 100% prevent people from being dumb, people will always be dumb.

Except your giving the advice to people who already do this.
Person A makes thread complaining
Person B (me) comments about blocking people
Person C (you) Gives advice on how to stop this
Person A + B already apply to this advice (the only way to make my notes simpler would be to not have any)
Advice is really wrong in this context since we are already following it so there is not need to tell us to keep doing the same thing we already are.

Originally posted by Not_Duck:

Some people accidently don't get every single detail of your trade, therefore they post the wrong thing. I think a lot of you guys are to impulsive when it comes to blocking people, "IM GOING TO BLOCK YOU BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T OFFER WHAT I WANTED", that sounds a bit immature if you ask me.

Here are some useful tips on how to get to actually read your post.
1. Keep it short, often times people don't want to spend an hour reading what you have to say, we have millions of trades and they can find one that is easier to understand.
2. Keep it simple, if you give some kind of complex offering guide you won't get quality offers and people will simply refuse to read it.
3. Don't state anything about "if you don't read this, I'll report you" or "type in "not_duck is cool" if you actually read the post", people are trolls and they will not follow the guidlines you set down because they are trolls.
4. Don't complain about it in your trades, i.e. "33000 people didn't read my OP, here are their names and steam ids, go make fun of them!", for one, you'll get banned for that (a violation of user rule 2) and for two, you'll attract unwanted attention.
5. Don't mislead users with your trades, if you have an unusual hat, worth about 1.5 earbuds, and you put 1 earbud in your wishlist, then you ask people not to offer just one earbud, guess what will happen? People won't listen.

TL:DR, Keep your trades short and simple and this wouldn't happen.

Lets see:

1. Yup, all I include is a list of the items and the price, so that is short.
2. Yup, all I include is a list of the items and the price, simple enough.
3. Yup, never mention the word read once in any of my trades.
4. Yup, again, all I include is a list of the items and the price, so no complaining.
5. I list one of each item I am acceptime (i.e. 1 bud, 1 bill's, 1 key, 1 ref, 1 rec, 1 scrap, ...) since I have multiple items in every trade it is impossible to have the exact amount on the offers side for the item the person is looking for since I don't know what they will be looking for when I make the trade, and there are 4-7 other items on the trade than just the one damn item the idiot who can't read is looking for. Maybe you should re-think this suggestion as it only makes sense if you only put one item in your trade, and because of your sites trade limits that is not feasible.

So yeah, your advice is wrong. I keep my trades short and simple and people still add me out of the blue and make offer for half of what I am asking for the item.

Originally posted by .L'autre:

when they don't read, i block them from steam and tf2Ooutpost , my tf2op blocklist is about +-130guys.

This is your best option. I don't go out of my way to find Outpost profiles to block people, but my Steam block list is lengthy.

Unless you started using OP before I did (maybe a year and a half ago or so) then you are wrong and nobody ever read descriptions on trades. I'm pretty sure most of the people who use Outpost don't even know how to read.

Originally posted by Uranium235:

Originally posted by ♡HelenAngel♡:

If you do indeed follow through and return the item, then I do not see you as a threat to either the Outpost community or the trading community as a whole and therefore do not think it is necessary to permanently ban you or mark you with a scammer tag.

Let me get this straight: I can scam someone at least once and wait to see if I get reported. If I don't, I have an unusual, if I do, I apologize, return the item and get away with a warning?

After all, his offer of amends came after he got reported.

Seems that way.

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Originally posted by ZakMcRofl:

Here's a nice thread that shows you how well it works to just hide them:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10398660/

This is the kind of behaviour you encourage if these reports go unheard. Even after specifically asking him to hide, he keeps going.

Maybe if you had more reasonable pricing that wouldn't happen.

This happens when you try to make multiple trades for the same item. You can fix it by not making more than one trade for the same thing.

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

There are small changes to the site that would probably lower administration load, like being able to delete items from a trade post and then add them back when in stock, you see many stores with icons not blanked out but the items out of stock, i'm sure they get reported a lot for this, but its because of how the site works and how inconvenient it is to remake a trade that it happens.

This is I don't think is a problem, the problem is the stupidity of the people making the trades. It is not that difficult to make a new trade and copy text into it. Not that there is anything wrong with not deleting item from trade (I do it for stranges sometimes if I might get more) it's again just that a lot of the people are probably too stupid to keep a stock quantity in the notes, or their notes are so ridiculously long and messy that no sane person would read them. I really don't get why people make such a big deal about having to remake a trade though, it really just baffles me.