Nobel and Champelliot are obviously blind enough not to read anything I actually said, but they sure like to put their words in my mouth so I'm just gonna drop this and not waste my time.

Originally posted by Nobel:

I see where you are coming from, but in 99% of trading noone cares about store prices of an item. You miss the point Champ is making in that the market we exist in do have value, but its set by the community. Items in tf2 have no official value. its up to the supply and demand.

His point was nonsensical. And about the in-game price, I was just saying that because no matter how he, you or anyone else feels about it - the items have it. I never said value of items is determined by them, but the prices do exist. How else do you think content makers are making money? - By selling it.

Originally posted by Champelliot:

People always make the mistake of thinking that items have prices.
No item has a price, or any form of a value

You're way off on both counts.
1. Items have prices - in the in-game stores for both TF2 and Dota 2.
2. Items most definitely have value, otherwise they wouldn't be traded for.
Furthermore, items that are not being sold in the store have an even greater value.

Why don't you learn something about digital content before you start rambling nonsense?

It's called "lowballing". And some people can't be arsed to wait for a better offer so they accept. Lowballers also like to use the terms "quick sell / quick buy". Welcome to trading.

@norby89: Same here, I have a notification in My Offers for a trade that I removed all my offers from and it just won't go away.