You seem to be avoiding my very direct question again, the way politicians always do. ;)

Is it allowed or not?

If it's not allowed, will reporting the ad directly to you have the slightest effect?

All I can see in the rules is:

1. Please do not make trades with...
...
Games in exchange for real world money.

Then rule 9 contradicts that(!) with:

If you're trading for real-world money then you may use the following services: Paypal, WebMoney and Bitcoins — however, be cautious. If you're buying a Steam game that will be gifted to you, please be aware that there is also a significant risk of being scammed with these types of trades. As these are both at-your-own-risk services, we take no responsibility or liability for loss of items and/or money.

So, it looks like you do allow it despite the very real risks?

Yes, those rules might help a bit, but scammers in the past have often stolen old accounts, so that wouldn't help.

But, can you answer yes or no; are trades that offer GIFTING as opposed to trading within the window, allowed specifically by the rules or not please?

OK, despite the 30 day trade cool-off period between gifts being bought and being allowed to be traded, there are hundreds if not thousands of trades on Outpost, offering freshly bought gifts to be 'gifted'.

Isn't this just aiding scammers or even those that have temporary cash flow problems with their bank to potentially rip-off buyers?

If your game gets revoked nowadays, and you haven't traded WITHIN the window, then Steam will just say, tough luck.

So, why allow these sorts of trades AT ALL and eliminate the risk altogether?

Not to mention the trades on Outpost that actually advertise stuff for Paypal funds which is blatantly against Steam rules, surely?

Feyzi. Hover your mouse over the top right of your posts. There should be a 'dustbin' icon. That will delete the post(s).

Unless it's already been locked of course.

Originally posted by norby89:

While it's a good advice to be cautios and stay away from deals that seem too good to be true, this isn't the place to call out people, wether they are scammers or not.

Ok fair enough, but he'll no doubt try this again and people will get caught by it.

-removed-

Just had this guy trying to do me a favour / 'help him' for a profit!

He is offering GTA 5 for 8-9 keys (LOL). Of course It's not tradable. Has tried this scam before and game(s) have been revoked according to Steam rep.

Don't trade outside the window guys!

BTW. Also sent this photo as 'proof' of purchase:

http://i.imgur.com/JE0wRWg.png

Since this morning (Fri 8th Jan), I noticed that on backpack.tf, TF2 items are no longer showing Parts, Spells, etc in the pop-ups and of course the associated prices along with them!

Is it just me, my browser or a fault their end or..?

OK, anything's possible. But, why does a user add me, then ignore the chat window after translating their foreign language and go the indirect route of posting the translated text on my profile page?!

If the boot was on the other foot, I would have pre-prepared a few likely phrases to copy and paste into the chat window.

I'd like to see definitive proof that you only get tagged with that scamming message after multiple reports i.e. from a Steam representative themselves, because it seems a bit of a coincidence that the day after I report someone, I get falsely tagged too.

I've never scammed anyone, but I've certainly rejected lots and lot and lots of ridiculous offers for gifts, such as emoticons for a Payday 2, 4-pack etc. If they were annoyed because they were rejected, then there'll be an awful lot of annoyed trolls out there. :)

Apparently, I have the 'this user has been reported for trade scams...' pop-up too! That's really made my day complete!

I get ripped-off, now I'm a scammer!

Steam's a bloody joke.

In the example above they were competent enough to write 'added you for Payday 2' on my front page, so lack of English comprehension seems unliklely.

It's of course very difficult to prove these people's original intent, yes, it's possible they may have been a seller mistaking my ad as me being the buyer, or it could have been deliberate.

I don't expect Steam to refund me, as it was my fault for accepting the trade.

But, Steam don't appear to do anything at all. I've reported about 30 odd phisher bots (I get about 2-3 a night fairly regularly) and they don't even acknowledge the report or ask for more information. So, I gave up.

Scam or not, just be careful when accepting trades which appear to be exactly what you asked for, is the message here.