Its not new, been around for a while

I don't know about your previous dealings with scammers, but you traded with Lone Knight who had been banned for a few weeks from outpost (july 6th) who had pending reports on SR. It was extremely clear he was going to be marked as a scammer for trading with them oh so many times.

1) Are objectors allowed to be used to advertise? I see trades doing this a lot more. I know trades used to be closed containing them. ex: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11410692

2) Is selling games for paypal allowed? It is against steams ToS and the few tickets I have put out for trades either never are answered, or are closed saying paypal is acceptable. There are a LOT of trades up listing paypal as acceptable forms of payment for games.

3) Should amazon gift cards, dogecoin, and other forms of payments be added to the allowed payments for money? I have seen quite a few trades with them that have been up for a while.

4) A question not related to rules, what happened to themes?

5) Not really a question, more of a bug. You can put up wrapped items multiple trades (instead of once like regular items)

Figured I would chime in my two cents.

-Don't expect massive amounts of profit to just come to you.
-You cannot make much profit if you only have a few items as you do not have much to 'flip'.
-Sharking is never a good tactic, especially when you do have more items and more things to lose.
-If you do plan on selling weapons for a scrap and buying cards for a scrap try not to stay with it to far. Any basic market like that is always oversaturated and full of bots (like keys).
-Especially when starting out or with little amounts of items, profit comes slower. Try to bump every 30 minutes on outpost and use other sources avaliable like classifieds on backpack.tf and trade servers.

My recommendations? If you plan on trying to get a lot of profit with trading, buy some keys from the steam market. If you get ~5-10 I would suggest selling them for metal and flipping some stranges and hats worth a few ref. Make a trade where you are always buying and another where you are always selling the items.

Hope this helps and the hardest thing about trading is being persistent!

Originally posted by Kinne - Ask about $1 mousepad:

Originally posted by Bone ==> www.tf2now.com:

@Dorimi - sharking means undervalueing the other person's item and getting it for way cheaper than normal prices while keeping the other person in the dark

So exactly what 90% of TF2 traders do

No. The basic definition of sharking is when you buy something for 10% of its price (according to outpost rules), but basically it is taking advantage of someone that knows little and has items of value. The most common example is people who add a new player that recently unboxed an unusual and has only a few hours on tf2 (using a program usually). They can offer them a 'shiny new laser weapon' for that unusual and convince them it is a good deal. They then resell it for 10 buds ( or something).

That is not the same as trades buying a strange worth a ref for a rec as they are not convincing the buyer of anything and if it is too low enough, someone will probably offer a scrap more or something.

It depends on a lot of things. For me it would be completely worth it because
A) I use a LOT more than 10 trades
B) I would forget to bump it constantly and it would become a hassle.
C) If you do use more trades, more bumps= more money ^^
D) You support a site that you use, which is always awesome.

If you absolutely hate where the TF2 economy is going then perhaps it isn't the best idea, but you can always switch to csgo / steam gifts / dota 2

If you still cannot decide, you can always try it for a month and if it seems like its not worth it just cancel it.

People cash out more around when school starts. It is not just the economy, some tend to focus on education or find little time to trade (although many people who cash out then come back later)