I'm not here to cause trouble. I've said my mind. If the admin can't put themselves in my shoes and understand where I'm coming from, then it's just going to keep happening. But if I can get somebody to actually think about it, maybe people won't have to wait months for their appeal to be read. Being blunt may get me in deeper trouble, but being passive will get me completely disregarded.

That's all I have to left to say. Good night.

Please, I am BEGGING you to read the initial post. Signed has been blocked, ignored, and reported accordingly. That entire section of the thread is completely irrelevant to my point. Now if YOU would like to read, perhaps we can get some kind of understanding going.

Originally posted by Cye:

Nothing about this is suggestive, in fact somewhat insulting to the staff who put in hours of their free time into Outpost, the minute you say something insulting you turn it into a rant, not a suggestion.

There is nothing derogatory or insulting in the original post. It won't even take 3 minutes to read the initial post, I promise. Furthermore, I provide a lot of crucial points.

Originally posted by Cye:

Everywhere you go there will be rules and principles that you must abide to, they're there to keep disobedience at bay and create fear for potential rule breakers, just like everywhere else, if you've broken a rule, massive or tiny, you will face punishment, it is YOUR fault for not reading through the rules, not the admins,

I had my profile on private for not even an hour, my profile was PUBLIC when I offered in the trade. In fact, it has to be in order to post. I was reported and banned before I even realized what happened. Where's the justice? You don't know the conditions, so don't lash your tongue at me.

Originally posted by Cye:

grow some patience and wait for your turn.

I don't mind waiting my "turn". However, I do find a week to be unacceptable progress. I genuinely feel sorry for the people who have to sit and wait months, that's just carelessness. This paragraph is the entire point of my argument. You can say they work hard, and I've even been told there's divisions mods are assigned to, but clearly somebody isn't doing their job. Do not defend that person. It is disrespectful to me, and everybody else who is sitting in line. I've gotten better service from the DMV.

Originally posted by Cye:

To repetition what I have just said; just because you broke a minor rule and faced consequences doesn't entitle you to a dispensation,

If the ban had been timed instead of permanent, I wouldn't even be here right now. The fact that I have to wait on somebody to unban me at their leisure because of a private profile is unacceptable. Even more so when the "at their leisure" is followed by a title card saying "To be continued". Nobody is trying to cut in line, I'm just trying to get the line to actually move.

Originally posted by Cye:

being rude and calling users "close-minded" is insulting and can further more increase your chances at a plausible ban

Closed-minded is an insult? The man jumped in this thread without reading anything but the title. I blocked him, and I ignored his posts. I'd hate to actually be banned for that, given the level of maturity and overall lack of interest in pursuing a one-sided fight, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Originally posted by Cye:

and you can't force the staff to put more hours in, they're already generous with the amount they put in Outpost.

If you however want to make a more formal and serious suggestion, i'd recommend starting at the right sub-forum, https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/6/

If people are waiting months to get unbanned, somebody is putting NO hours in. And yet... the people in the banning division are certainly on the ball, aren't they?

Anyways, to wrap this up, yeah I'll probably visit that sub-forum. I might as well visit the mod application one, too. I'd have more done in a day than they've done all year.

Originally posted by signed:

look at you complaining about a FREE service, you can't just expect 24/7 admin support out of this. look at yourself before complaining.

Enjoy being blocked.

I'm providing critical suggestion to a free service. A service I've even considered donating to. Like I said, none of this. Trying to keep this mature and not full of closed-minded damage control.

Originally posted by signed:

Admins have lives that they live. This is just volunteer work whenever they have FREE time, not when they are online. Respect what they do and you broke the rules in the first place. Deal with the punishment.

These are the type of responses I'm not looking for. I'm trying to get a point across to sensible people, not brainless damage-controlling from people who've only read the title. Please refrain from replying, thank you.

EDIT: This is a thread with substance. It requires reading.

Reviving topic since the last thread was ended rudely.

Originally posted by Blue Screen of Dea†h:

You don't get to cut the line because your ban is easier to lift.

You broke a rule and was penalized for it. It has always been like this, and private profiles/inventories have always been against the rules and generated permanent bans. It's been this way for 4 years now...

Each staff is assigned to a different department. Some do bans, some do appeals. There are no crossovers. And handling ban appeals takes more time than issuing bans. Our priority will always be those who follow the rules (by also protecting them from those who don't), not those who break them.

I was speaking for everybody when I said that the priority level for appeals needs to rise in the priority list. I refuse to be talked down to like a criminal, because I had my profile on private for a brief time. I fixed it, and I wrote in the appeal every day this past week letting them know.

Originally posted by Blue Screen of Dea†h:

Each staff is assigned to a different department. Some do bans, some do appeals. There are no crossovers.

Clearly not enough, and I sure hope this is volunteer work and people aren't actually getting paid to do this. There cannot be that many banned people, and if there are:

Originally posted by Nue:

if they weren't PERMANENTLY BANNING people for silly things like private profiles, that'd probably ease the load.

There ARE people that deserve it. There ARE scammers and trolls who are looking for trouble. That is not me, and I am pretty sure it isn't the numerous other people who are banned for the same reason. Not ONLY am I denied the service, but that heavily impacts my ability to trade, as well as receive offers. People are not only afraid of trading with a banned user, but are threatened by the site for doing it. I don't deserve to be treated like the plague for having a private profile. That applies to everybody, ESPECIALLY the ones waiting months for their appeal to get looked at. Completely unacceptable.

Originally posted by Cronopio:

Oh man... I made a ticket 3 months ago and no response :/

Originally posted by Nue:

if they weren't PERMANENTLY BANNING people for silly things like private profiles, that'd probably ease the load.

Originally posted by Cye:

There are more staff banning people than unbanning, you're not the only one waiting, there are others who are already waiting for months

Precisely why they should put unbanning people just a biiiiit higher on their priorities list. Waiting for months is completely unacceptable. Especially when they are banned for asinine reasons, like myself. Somebody really needs to stop defending the staff and actually address this to them.

Profile has been public since the instant I was banned. That's far from the issue at hand. My problem is that it has been almost a week, and the staff are completely neglecting the ticket. I keep seeing people defending the staff, "They're busy, they'll get to it when they're free". I find it somewhat laughable that they're quicker to ban for trivial reasons like private profiles, than to respond to my ticket from DAYS AGO trying to get myself unbanned. I'm not going to fight them over their policies and rules, I'm just going to fight against sheer laziness and neglect. There has been NO rudeness, anger, threats or the like. There is NO reason for them to take this long with such a simple task, when it only takes them a couple minutes to ban after a report.

I'm sorry their hands are worked to the bone, but if they weren't PERMANENTLY BANNING people for silly things like private profiles, that'd probably ease the load. I'm completely denied the service because of it.

About 5 days ago, I was banned on Outpost for having a private backpack. There was no malicious intent behind that, certainly not enough to be banned from the site without warning. Regardless, I made it public almost immediately after. I've yet to be unbanned, for some reason? I posted in the appeal daily, and the mod who banned me seems to have completely disregarded it. I've been rather kind about it, but it has been 5 days now. Something needs to be done about this severe neglect.