Originalmente postado por Digitic:

Ok guys, you can stop this argument now, or at least show evidence from the game to support your opinions (Can you guys tell I like Phoenix Wright?).

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Originalmente postado por FloomRide:

Yes, with Medics and Soldiers, the one with more skill wins. But Medics require a slightly lower skill threshold because of thier general squishiness and weakish weaponry. 'Nuff said.

"Weakish" weaponry? Talk about the Crusader's Crossbow.

PS. for the montages of medics, it's almost the same thing that happens for Pyro's that reflect the rocket on the ground to propel themself and do the same thing. Except for the fact that if they damaged the soldier alot, if they have 'nuff skills they can 1-shot him to death with a Flare Gun.
The world is good cause it varies.

Originalmente postado por FloomRide:

I don't see how that proves you can't have too many Medics, you only proved my point. Also, this is a PRO scout we're talking about, against a GOOD soldier. Like I said, with soldiers, the one with more skill wins. Soldier Isn't effective at open-air combat anyways. Medics with any syringe gun will not win against a soldier of the same skill level no matter how good at dodging they are. They simply do not have enough raw power.

What if the Soldier has a Shotgun?There could be thousands of situation where the soldiers wins and not. And by the way yes, it's actually the one that has more skills that wins.
About the medics, well no shit dude. I saw some montages on Youtube of medics that use the explosion of the rockets to rocketjump and plant nails on their heads or just smash the fuck out of them with the melee. No kidding.

Originalmente postado por FloomRide:

Well, an experienced Soldier would use slpash damage to kill Scouts and Pyros, and it all comes down to who has more skill (or luck). If you think Soldier has a hard counter that he CANNOT best, he must have something that HE counters. Which, in all honesty, he doesn't. Medic doesn't either, but what counters the patient will usually do. This is why you can never have to many Soldiers and Medics on a team (as long as there's more battle classes than Medics).

Heh, going for the physic of the splash damage? Ok, let me explain this real quickly. Think that you are a good soldier, you've fought alot of battles and other stuff, but at a certain point a pro scout joins in on the opposite team. He's using a Soda Popper, a stock Pistol and the melee he wants to use (most commonly Fan o War. What the usual *boop* do you do when this guy comes out with the jump meter filled and starts dodging all your projectiles doing multiple jumps and shooting from the skies? You're BOOPed, unless you're in a CQC situation. THEN you can use splash damage taking advantage of your surroundings.
By the way, lol, i've seen medics take care of experienced soldiers like NOTHING. Crusader's Crossbow? Stock Saw? They are getting the pro-style going on.
AND, you can't have too many medics? FUCK THAT. No offense but seriously, i see couples of battle+combat medics every day, and they demolish the entire team if they know how to actually fight and heal themselves.

The evoulutionary tree of....xXMLG420HARDSCOPEQUICKSCOPEBLAZEITCODKINGSHOTXx
(LEL jk, that would be a sub-class of sniper).
By the way...

Originalmente postado por FloomRide:

Guide Idea: the counters of each class (ex. pyro's counter is heavy) so noobs can finally kill their nemesis. (Also I've found that soldier does not have a counter/counter anyone)

Dude, you're totally wrong. A well experienced Scout can dodge Soldier's projectiles and eventually kill him. Even the classic Pyro would do, as long as he doesn't use the Flare Gun.
Still, the counters guide would be a good idea.

I know one kind of medic do introduce: the Double Trouble Medic. It's a group of 2 medics: one heals, the other fights. It's a very powerful combo since the syringes may look like crap, but what if they are CRITS ones? They do alot of damage. And, of course, they know how to fight in every situation they are, and i have seen these guys demolishing entire squads ending from spawncamping them.
I will use #1 for the attacking medic and #2 for the healing one.
Loadout:
Medic #1: Blutsauger; Medic #2: Stock
Medic#1:Any, most commonly Stock; Medic #2:Kritzkrieg
Medic #1: Ubersaw/Stock/Solemn Wov; Medic #2: Amputator/Ubersaw

Position: Battlefield.

Advantages: they can destroy an entire team with just a Kritz charge.

Disadvantages: unless they need help, they will rarely heal teammates.

How to beat them: Pro Soldiers with crockets, Heavies,Pro BFB Scouts, Machina Snipers.

It's basically a duo of Battle Medic + Combat Medic.