I never actually compared it diablo 2, I compared it to modern dungeon crawlers such as diabo (refering to the newst one). I have been playing abit and it hasnt really shined in any particular area to me. in fact, one huge anoyance I have is the fact that the difficulty is a little inconsistant in multiplayer. If playing on veteran (which in all fairness feels like normal) single player you can walk through MOST fights no trouble, however playing veteran multiplayer the difficulty suddenly amps up significantly. so in multiplayer, normal is veteran, veteran is elite and elite...well, seems rather ridiculous to me. another quam I have with this is that enemies become stronger, but significnatly so. so in multiplayer if your playing front lines while you allies are nuking from behind you, you will take significant damage, more damage than your allies can equally dish out. so the enemies will do alot more damage and take alot less damage making playing melee a little unforgiving. hell last few matches of playing multiplayer on a reasonable difficulty (veteran) almost none of my allies bothered with melee attacks and spammed cannon attacks and AOE attacks (beserkers AOE ice thing), chugging down a mana potions in order to keep up the onslaught. hell it was far more effeciant then trying to go toe to toe . this is especially true with bosses. I will note that I am playing an Engineer with a healing drone and by now level 28 and have at least 130-150 defence in all element and physical defence. I dont consider myself a poor player and am infact playing on elite on single player, its just when it comes to multipayer it seems a little inproportional. your thoughts?

sounds all good. however , it just sounds like they have added "more" but not neccesarily made the game better. From what you have mentioned it sounds like its only just been put up to scratch with modern Dungeon Crawler games like Diablo or the such like Titan Quest. I was really hoping to hear something revolutionary not just more of the same. like the first Torchlight was great, adding a really realistic enviroment with enemies poping out of cliff sides and ragdoll physics to exploded enemies. hell the pet system was a nice touch as well that really streamlined exploring. I suppose more of the same isnt a bad thing and improvments are of course improvments but I guess I was really hoping for something like a great change that would revolutionise dungeon crawlers and set Torchlight 2 as the bench mark for such games. Im thinking abit like Guild Wars 2, they did something really different and completely changed some fundamental bases of MMORPGS and it worked great. Im kinda hoping torchlight 2 might do the same.

I dunno, I had bought torchlight 2 a while back and I started looking at a few in game videos a while back. In all honesty it dun seem like they have changed much from the original. I understand what makes torchlight a good game and changing to much would obviously shake what makes it so good or outright stop it from being a sequal. but so far all I see is multiplayer, new graphics and different classes but its otherwise exactly the same game as torchlight 1. Is there more here that I havn't heard about or am I expecting too much? Would be great if there was far more to the game that I simply havn't heard about.