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Upgrading Mines and Turbines
By Romerolagus
When is it right to upgrade Mines and Turbines?
   
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Overview
This guide was inspired by Project Incursus and Frazzz (for two very, very different reasons) and explores the ramifications of upgrading your mines and turbines.

TL;DR Skip to the Break-Even Point table.
Device Properties
First let's cover the costs of building vs upgrading in terms of both time and resources, and the income produced by each device assuming 100% Turbine efficiency.

Building Costs
Device
Metal Cost
Energy Cost
Building Time
Building Time (H)
Mine
300
2000
30s
27s
Turbine
200
800
20s
18s

Upgrading Costs
Device
Metal Cost
Energy Cost
Upgrade Time
Upgrade Time (H)
Upgrade Time (O)
Mine
75
2500
22s
19.8s
11s
Turbine
100
1000
15s
13.5s
7.5s

Income
Device
Income
Income (P)
Income (U)
Income (UP)
Mine
4
4.4
6
6.6
Turbine
45
49.5
67.5
74.25

(H) signifies Hurricane Commander.
(O) signifies Overdrive Commander
(P) signifies Pinchfist Commander.
(U) signifies upgraded device.
The Break-Even Point: Buy New or Upgrade?
Quite simply, the Break-Even Point is the point in time when your investment finishes paying for itself. Investment cost includes both the up front cost as well as any lost income due to the device being offline.

For example, a standard mine costs 75 metal to upgrade and is offline for 22 seconds while upgrading. During those 22 seconds, had it been online it would have generated an additional 4 metal per second, or 88 metal. That gives a total metal cost of 75 + 88, or 163 metal. An upgraded mine produces 6, rather than 4 metal per second, meaning that once it has completed it will be recouping 2 metal per second on that 163. The up front cost in terms of time is 22 seconds, and then another 82 seconds is necessary to reach the break-even point at 104 seconds.

In comparison, building a new mine would have a much higher up front cost of 300 metal, but no income would be lost as no existing mine is taken offline. After 30 seconds, it would be recouping the investment at a rate of 4 per second, reaching the break-even point after 75 seconds of operation, or 105 seconds total. To look at it another way, an upgraded mine takes 104 seconds to pay back the 163 total metal investment, while purchasing a new mine takes only 1 second longer to repay the 300 spent. After the break-even point is reached, the new mine would be outpacing the upgraded mine at a rate of 2 per second.

For upgrading Turbines, the total energy cost is an initial 1000, plus 15 seconds (Note: prior to update 1.14 July 7th, upgrade time was 30 seconds) offline at 45 energy per second, for a total of 1675 energy. Once upgraded, energy production increases to 67.5, so it would be recovering that 1675 at a rate of 22.5 per second, reaching its break-even point at a total of 90 seconds. In comparison, a new turbine costs 800 energy and completes within 20 seconds, generating an additional 45 energy per second. 18 seconds of operation is sufficient to recoup that 800, so the break-even point is reached in a mere 38 seconds. After which it would be outpacing the upgraded turbine at a rate of 22.5 per second.

Because different commanders affect the building times and income generated by devices, the break-even point can change as a result. Here's a quick summary:

Break-Even Point
Device
Standard
Pinchfist
Hurricane
Overdrive
New Mine
105s
99s
102s
105s
Upgraded Mine
104s
101s
98s
71s
New Turbine
38s
37s
36s
38s
Upgraded Turbine
90s
86s
87s
69s
Other Factors
While the numbers seemingly speak for themselves, they aren't the whole story. Fort design, defensibility, wind ceilings, turbine efficiency, wind obstructions, starting resources, the number of placements available, weight and joint stress and more all factor in. Sometimes it's better to focus on one efficient turbine you can keep alive rather than building several minimum efficiency turbines you can't possibly defend. Some maps are severely limited in the number of mine locations, or your strategy requires them for swarm missiles or warheads. Whatever you choose, I hope this guide helps you make the best decisions.

Finally, for anyone interested in a comparison between the various commanders and upgrading vs building new, I've included some tables that chart out the income from a single mine or turbine out to the 150th second. I was a bit constrained by the Steam limits on character counts and width, so abbreviations were used when necessary. N signifies building New, while U signifies upgrading. Break-even points indicated thusly.
Mine Income 1
Time
Standard
Upgrading
New Mine
Pinchfist
Pinchfist U
Pinchfist N
Hurricane U
Hurricane N
Overdrive U
1
4
0
4
4.4
0
4.4
0
4
0
2
8
0
8
8.8
0
8.8
0
8
0
3
12
0
12
13.2
0
13.2
0
12
0
4
16
0
16
17.6
0
17.6
0
16
0
5
20
0
20
22
0
22
0
20
0
6
24
0
24
26.4
0
26.4
0
24
0
7
28
0
28
30.8
0
30.8
0
28
0
8
32
0
32
35.2
0
35.2
0
32
0
9
36
0
36
39.6
0
39.6
0
36
0
10
40
0
40
44
0
44
0
40
0
11
44
0
44
48.4
0
48.4
0
44
0
12
48
0
48
52.8
0
52.8
0
48
6
13
52
0
52
57.2
0
57.2
0
52
12
14
56
0
56
61.6
0
61.6
0
56
18
15
60
0
60
66
0
66
0
60
24
16
64
0
64
70.4
0
70.4
0
64
30
17
68
0
68
74.8
0
74.8
0
68
36
18
72
0
72
79.2
0
79.2
0
72
42
19
76
0
76
83.6
0
83.6
0
76
48
20
80
0
80
88
0
88
0
80
54
21
84
0
84
92.4
0
92.4
6
84
60
22
88
0
88
96.8
0
96.8
12
88
66
23
92
6
92
101.2
6.6
101.2
18
92
72
24
96
12
96
105.6
13.2
105.6
24
96
78
25
100
18
100
110
19.8
110
30
100
84
26
104
24
104
114.4
26.4
114.4
36
104
90
27
108
30
108
118.8
33
118.8
42
108
96
28
112
36
112
123.2
39.6
123.2
48
116
102
29
116
42
116
127.6
46.2
127.6
54
124
108
30
120
48
120
132
52.8
132
60
132
114
31
124
54
128
136.4
59.4
140.8
66
140
120
32
128
60
136
140.8
66
149.6
72
148
126
33
132
66
144
145.2
72.6
158.4
78
156
132
34
136
72
152
149.6
79.2
167.2
84
164
138
35
140
78
160
154
85.8
176
90
172
144
36
144
84
168
158.4
92.4
184.8
96
180
150
37
148
90
176
162.8
99
193.6
102
188
156
38
152
96
184
167.2
105.6
202.4
108
196
162
39
156
102
192
171.6
112.2
211.2
114
204
168
40
160
108
200
176
118.8
220
120
212
174
41
164
114
208
180.4
125.4
228.8
126
220
180
42
168
120
216
184.8
132
237.6
132
228
186
43
172
126
224
189.2
138.6
246.4
138
236
192
44
176
132
232
193.6
145.2
255.2
144
244
198
45
180
138
240
198
151.8
264
150
252
204
46
184
144
248
202.4
158.4
272.8
156
260
210
47
188
150
256
206.8
165
281.6
162
268
216
48
192
156
264
211.2
171.6
290.4
168
276
222
49
196
162
272
215.6
178.2
299.2
174
284
228
50
200
168
280
220
184.8
308
180
292
234
Mine Income 2
Time
Standard
Upgrading
New Mine
Pinchfist
Pinchfist U
Pinchfist N
Hurricane U
Hurricane N
Overdrive U
51
204
174
288
224.4
191.4
316.8
186
300
240
52
208
180
296
228.8
198
325.6
192
308
246
53
212
186
304
233.2
204.6
334.4
198
316
252
54
216
192
312
237.6
211.2
343.2
204
324
258
55
220
198
320
242
217.8
352
210
332
264
56
224
204
328
246.4
224.4
360.8
216
340
270
57
228
210
336
250.8
231
369.6
222
348
276
58
232
216
344
255.2
237.6
378.4
228
356
282
59
236
222
352
259.6
244.2
387.2
234
364
288
60
240
228
360
264
250.8
396
240
372
294
61
244
234
368
268.4
257.4
404.8
246
380
300
62
248
240
376
272.8
264
413.6
252
388
306
63
252
246
384
277.2
270.6
422.4
258
396
312
64
256
252
392
281.6
277.2
431.2
264
404
318
65
260
258
400
286
283.8
440
270
412
324
66
264
264
408
290.4
290.4
448.8
276
420
330
67
268
270
416
294.8
297
457.6
282
428
336
68
272
276
424
299.2
303.6
466.4
288
436
342
69
276
282
432
303.6
310.2
475.2
294
444
348
70
280
288
440
308
316.8
484
300
452
354
71
284
294
448
312.4
323.4
492.8
306
460
360
72
288
300
456
316.8
330
501.6
312
468
366
73
292
306
464
321.2
336.6
510.4
318
476
372
74
296
312
472
325.6
343.2
519.2
324
484
378
75
300
318
480
330
349.8
528
330
492
384
76
304
324
488
334.4
356.4
536.8
336
500
390
77
308
330
496
338.8
363
545.6
342
508
396
78
312
336
504
343.2
369.6
554.4
348
516
402
79
316
342
512
347.6
376.2
563.2
354
524
408
80
320
348
520
352
382.8
572
360
532
414
81
324
354
528
356.4
389.4
580.8
366
540
420
82
328
360
536
360.8
396
589.6
372
548
426
83
332
366
544
365.2
402.6
598.4
378
556
432
84
336
372
552
369.6
409.2
607.2
384
564
438
85
340
378
560
374
415.8
616
390
572
444
86
344
384
568
378.4
422.4
624.8
396
580
450
87
348
390
576
382.8
429
633.6
402
588
456
88
352
396
584
387.2
435.6
642.4
408
596
462
89
356
402
592
391.6
442.2
651.2
414
604
468
90
360
408
600
396
448.8
660
420
612
474
91
364
414
608
400.4
455.4
668.8
426
620
480
92
368
420
616
404.8
462
677.6
432
628
486
93
372
426
624
409.2
468.6
686.4
438
636
492
94
376
432
632
413.6
475.2
695.2
444
644
498
95
380
438
640
418
481.8
704
450
652
504
96
384
444
648
422.4
488.4
712.8
456
660
510
97
388
450
656
426.8
495
721.6
462
668
516
98
392
456
664
431.2
501.6
730.4
468
676
522
99
396
462
672
435.6
508.2
739.2
474
684
528
100
400
468
680
440
514.8
748
480
692
534
Mine Income 3
Time
Standard
Upgrading
New Mine
Pinchfist
Pinchfist U
Pinchfist N
Hurricane U
Hurricane N
Overdrive U
101
404
474
688
444.4
521.4
756.8
486
700
540
102
408
480
696
448.8
528
765.6
492
708
546
103
412
486
704
453.2
534.6
774.4
498
716
552
104
416
492
712
457.6
541.2
783.2
504
724
558
105
420
498
720
462
547.8
792
510
732
564
106
424
504
728
466.4
554.4
800.8
516
740
570
107
428
510
736
470.8
561
809.6
522
748
576
108
432
516
744
475.2
567.6
818.4
528
756
582
109
436
522
752
479.6
574.2
827.2
534
764
588
110
440
528
760
484
580.8
836
540
772
594
111
444
534
768
488.4
587.4
844.8
546
780
600
112
448
540
776
492.8
594
853.6
552
788
606
113
452
546
784
497.2
600.6
862.4
558
796
612
114
456
552
792
501.6
607.2
871.2
564
804
618
115
460
558
800
506
613.8
880
570
812
624
116
464
564
808
510.4
620.4
888.8
576
820
630
117
468
570
816
514.8
627
897.6
582
828
636
118
472
576
824
519.2
633.6
906.4
588
836
642
119
476
582
832
523.6
640.2
915.2
594
844
648
120
480
588
840
528
646.8
924
600
852
654
121
484
594
848
532.4
653.4
932.8
606
860
660
122
488
600
856
536.8
660
941.6
612
868
666
123
492
606
864
541.2
666.6
950.4
618
876
672
124
496
612
872
545.6
673.2
959.2
624
884
678
125
500
618
880
550
679.8
968
630
892
684
126
504
624
888
554.4
686.4
976.8
636
900
690
127
508
630
896
558.8
693
985.6
642
908
696
128
512
636
904
563.2
699.6
994.4
648
916
702
129
516
642
912
567.6
706.2
1003.2
654
924
708
130
520
648
920
572
712.8
1012
660
932
714
131
524
654
928
576.4
719.4
1020.8
666
940
720
132
528
660
936
580.8
726
1029.6
672
948
726
133
532
666
944
585.2
732.6
1038.4
678
956
732
134
536
672
952
589.6
739.2
1047.2
684
964
738
135
540
678
960
594
745.8
1056
690
972
744
136
544
684
968
598.4
752.4
1064.8
696
980
750
137
548
690
976
602.8
759
1073.6
702
988
756
138
552
696
984
607.2
765.6
1082.4
708
996
762
139
556
702
992
611.6
772.2
1091.2
714
1004
768
140
560
708
1000
616
778.8
1100
720
1012
774
141
564
714
1008
620.4
785.4
1108.8
726
1020
780
142
568
720
1016
624.8
792
1117.6
732
1028
786
143
572
726
1024
629.2
798.6
1126.4
738
1036
792
144
576
732
1032
633.6
805.2
1135.2
744
1044
798
145
580
738
1040
638
811.8
1144
750
1052
804
146
584
744
1048
642.4
818.4
1152.8
756
1060
810
147
588
750
1056
646.8
825
1161.6
762
1068
816
148
592
756
1064
651.2
831.6
1170.4
768
1076
822
149
596
762
1072
655.6
838.2
1179.2
774
1084
828
150
600
768
1080
660
844.8
1188
780
1092
834
Turbine Income 1
Time
Standard
Upgrading
New Turbine
Pinchfist
Pinchfist U
Pinchfist N
Hurricane U
Hurricane N
Overdrive U
1
45
0
45
49.5
0
49.5
0
45
0
2
90
0
90
99
0
99
0
90
0
3
135
0
135
148.5
0
148.5
0
135
0
4
180
0
180
198
0
198
0
180
0
5
225
0
225
247.5
0
247.5
0
225
0
6
270
0
270
297
0
297
0
270
0
7
315
0
315
346.5
0
346.5
0
315
0
8
360
0
360
396
0
396
0
360
0
9
405
0
405
445.5
0
445.5
0
405
67.5
10
450
0
450
495
0
495
0
450
135
11
495
0
495
544.5
0
544.5
0
495
202.5
12
540
0
540
594
0
594
0
540
270
13
585
0
585
643.5
0
643.5
0
585
337.5
14
630
0
630
693
0
693
0
630
405
15
675
0
675
742.5
0
742.5
67.5
675
472.5
16
720
67.5
720
792
74.25
792
135
720
540
17
765
135
765
841.5
148.5
841.5
202.5
765
607.5
18
810
202.5
810
891
222.75
891
270
810
675
19
855
270
855
940.5
297
940.5
337.5
900
742.5
20
900
337.5
900
990
371.25
990
405
990
810
21
945
405
990
1039.5
445.5
1089
472.5
1080
877.5
22
990
472.5
1080
1089
519.75
1188
540
1170
945
23
1035
540
1170
1138.5
594
1287
607.5
1260
1012.5
24
1080
607.5
1260
1188
668.25
1386
675
1350
1080
25
1125
675
1350
1237.5
742.5
1485
742.5
1440
1147.5
26
1170
742.5
1440
1287
816.75
1584
810
1530
1215
27
1215
810
1530
1336.5
891
1683
877.5
1620
1282.5
28
1260
877.5
1620
1386
965.25
1782
945
1710
1350
29
1305
945
1710
1435.5
1039.5
1881
1012.5
1800
1417.5
30
1350
1012.5
1800
1485
1113.75
1980
1080
1890
1485
31
1395
1080
1890
1534.5
1188
2079
1147.5
1980
1552.5
32
1440
1147.5
1980
1584
1262.25
2178
1215
2070
1620
33
1485
1215
2070
1633.5
1336.5
2277
1282.5
2160
1687.5
34
1530
1282.5
2160
1683
1410.75
2376
1350
2250
1755
35
1575
1350
2250
1732.5
1485
2475
1417.5
2340
1822.5
36
1620
1417.5
2340
1782
1559.25
2574
1485
2430
1890
37
1665
1485
2430
1831.5
1633.5
2673
1552.5
2520
1957.5
38
1710
1552.5
2520
1881
1707.75
2772
1620
2610
2025
39
1755
1620
2610
1930.5
1782
2871
1687.5
2700
2092.5
40
1800
1687.5
2700
1980
1856.25
2970
1755
2790
2160
41
1845
1755
2790
2029.5
1930.5
3069
1822.5
2880
2227.5
42
1890
1822.5
2880
2079
2004.75
3168
1890
2970
2295
43
1935
1890
2970
2128.5
2079
3267
1957.5
3060
2362.5
44
1980
1957.5
3060
2178
2153.25
3366
2025
3150
2430
45
2025
2025
3150
2227.5
2227.5
3465
2092.5
3240
2497.5
46
2070
2092.5
3240
2277
2301.75
3564
2160
3330
2565
47
2115
2160
3330
2326.5
2376
3663
2227.5
3420
2632.5
48
2160
2227.5
3420
2376
2450.25
3762
2295
3510
2700
49
2205
2295
3510
2425.5
2524.5
3861
2362.5
3600
2767.5
50
2250
2362.5
3600
2475
2598.75
3960
2430
3690
2835
Turbine Income 2
Time
Standard
Upgrading
New Turbine
Pinchfist
Pinchfist U
Pinchfist N
Hurricane U
Hurricane N
Overdrive U
51
2295
2430
3690
2524.5
2673
4059
2497.5
3780
2902.5
52
2340
2497.5
3780
2574
2747.25
4158
2565
3870
2970
53
2385
2565
3870
2623.5
2821.5
4257
2632.5
3960
3037.5
54
2430
2632.5
3960
2673
2895.75
4356
2700
4050
3105
55
2475
2700
4050
2722.5
2970
4455
2767.5
4140
3172.5
56
2520
2767.5
4140
2772
3044.25
4554
2835
4230
3240
57
2565
2835
4230
2821.5
3118.5
4653
2902.5
4320
3307.5
58
2610
2902.5
4320
2871
3192.75
4752
2970
4410
3375
59
2655
2970
4410
2920.5
3267
4851
3037.5
4500
3442.5
60
2700
3037.5
4500
2970
3341.25
4950
3105
4590
3510
61
2745
3105
4590
3019.5
3415.5
5049
3172.5
4680
3577.5
62
2790
3172.5
4680
3069
3489.75
5148
3240
4770
3645
63
2835
3240
4770
3118.5
3564
5247
3307.5
4860
3712.5
64
2880
3307.5
4860
3168
3638.25
5346
3375
4950
3780
65
2925
3375
4950
3217.5
3712.5
5445
3442.5
5040
3847.5
66
2970
3442.5
5040
3267
3786.75
5544
3510
5130
3915
67
3015
3510
5130
3316.5
3861
5643
3577.5
5220
3982.5
68
3060
3577.5
5220
3366
3935.25
5742
3645
5310
4050
69
3105
3645
5310
3415.5
4009.5
5841
3712.5
5400
4117.5
70
3150
3712.5
5400
3465
4083.75
5940
3780
5490
4185
71
3195
3780
5490
3514.5
4158
6039
3847.5
5580
4252.5
72
3240
3847.5
5580
3564
4232.25
6138
3915
5670
4320
73
3285
3915
5670
3613.5
4306.5
6237
3982.5
5760
4387.5
74
3330
3982.5
5760
3663
4380.75
6336
4050
5850
4455
75
3375
4050
5850
3712.5
4455
6435
4117.5
5940
4522.5
76
3420
4117.5
5940
3762
4529.25
6534
4185
6030
4590
77
3465
4185
6030
3811.5
4603.5
6633
4252.5
6120
4657.5
78
3510
4252.5
6120
3861
4677.75
6732
4320
6210
4725
79
3555
4320
6210
3910.5
4752
6831
4387.5
6300
4792.5
80
3600
4387.5
6300
3960
4826.25
6930
4455
6390
4860
81
3645
4455
6390
4009.5
4900.5
7029
4522.5
6480
4927.5
82
3690
4522.5
6480
4059
4974.75
7128
4590
6570
4995
83
3735
4590
6570
4108.5
5049
7227
4657.5
6660
5062.5
84
3780
4657.5
6660
4158
5123.25
7326
4725
6750
5130
85
3825
4725
6750
4207.5
5197.5
7425
4792.5
6840
5197.5
86
3870
4792.5
6840
4257
5271.75
7524
4860
6930
5265
87
3915
4860
6930
4306.5
5346
7623
4927.5
7020
5332.5
88
3960
4927.5
7020
4356
5420.25
7722
4995
7110
5400
89
4005
4995
7110
4405.5
5494.5
7821
5062.5
7200
5467.5
90
4050
5062.5
7200
4455
5568.75
7920
5130
7290
5535
91
4095
5130
7290
4504.5
5643
8019
5197.5
7380
5602.5
92
4140
5197.5
7380
4554
5717.25
8118
5265
7470
5670
93
4185
5265
7470
4603.5
5791.5
8217
5332.5
7560
5737.5
94
4230
5332.5
7560
4653
5865.75
8316
5400
7650
5805
95
4275
5400
7650
4702.5
5940
8415
5467.5
7740
5872.5
96
4320
5467.5
7740
4752
6014.25
8514
5535
7830
5940
97
4365
5535
7830
4801.5
6088.5
8613
5602.5
7920
6007.5
98
4410
5602.5
7920
4851
6162.75
8712
5670
8010
6075
99
4455
5670
8010
4900.5
6237
8811
5737.5
8100
6142.5
100
4500
5737.5
8100
4950
6311.25
8910
5805
8190
6210
Turbine Income 3
Time
Standard
Upgrading
New Turbine
Pinchfist
Pinchfist U
Pinchfist N
Hurricane U
Hurricane N
Overdrive U
101
4545
5805
8190
4999.5
6385.5
9009
5872.5
8280
6277.5
102
4590
5872.5
8280
5049
6459.75
9108
5940
8370
6345
103
4635
5940
8370
5098.5
6534
9207
6007.5
8460
6412.5
104
4680
6007.5
8460
5148
6608.25
9306
6075
8550
6480
105
4725
6075
8550
5197.5
6682.5
9405
6142.5
8640
6547.5
106
4770
6142.5
8640
5247
6756.75
9504
6210
8730
6615
107
4815
6210
8730
5296.5
6831
9603
6277.5
8820
6682.5
108
4860
6277.5
8820
5346
6905.25
9702
6345
8910
6750
109
4905
6345
8910
5395.5
6979.5
9801
6412.5
9000
6817.5
110
4950
6412.5
9000
5445
7053.75
9900
6480
9090
6885
111
4995
6480
9090
5494.5
7128
9999
6547.5
9180
6952.5
112
5040
6547.5
9180
5544
7202.25
10098
6615
9270
7020
113
5085
6615
9270
5593.5
7276.5
10197
6682.5
9360
7087.5
114
5130
6682.5
9360
5643
7350.75
10296
6750
9450
7155
115
5175
6750
9450
5692.5
7425
10395
6817.5
9540
7222.5
116
5220
6817.5
9540
5742
7499.25
10494
6885
9630
7290
117
5265
6885
9630
5791.5
7573.5
10593
6952.5
9720
7357.5
118
5310
6952.5
9720
5841
7647.75
10692
7020
9810
7425
119
5355
7020
9810
5890.5
7722
10791
7087.5
9900
7492.5
120
5400
7087.5
9900
5940
7796.25
10890
7155
9990
7560
121
5445
7155
9990
5989.5
7870.5
10989
7222.5
10080
7627.5
122
5490
7222.5
10080
6039
7944.75
11088
7290
10170
7695
123
5535
7290
10170
6088.5
8019
11187
7357.5
10260
7762.5
124
5580
7357.5
10260
6138
8093.25
11286
7425
10350
7830
125
5625
7425
10350
6187.5
8167.5
11385
7492.5
10440
7897.5
126
5670
7492.5
10440
6237
8241.75
11484
7560
10530
7965
127
5715
7560
10530
6286.5
8316
11583
7627.5
10620
8032.5
128
5760
7627.5
10620
6336
8390.25
11682
7695
10710
8100
129
5805
7695
10710
6385.5
8464.5
11781
7762.5
10800
8167.5
130
5850
7762.5
10800
6435
8538.75
11880
7830
10890
8235
131
5895
7830
10890
6484.5
8613
11979
7897.5
10980
8302.5
132
5940
7897.5
10980
6534
8687.25
12078
7965
11070
8370
133
5985
7965
11070
6583.5
8761.5
12177
8032.5
11160
8437.5
134
6030
8032.5
11160
6633
8835.75
12276
8100
11250
8505
135
6075
8100
11250
6682.5
8910
12375
8167.5
11340
8572.5
136
6120
8167.5
11340
6732
8984.25
12474
8235
11430
8640
137
6165
8235
11430
6781.5
9058.5
12573
8302.5
11520
8707.5
138
6210
8302.5
11520
6831
9132.75
12672
8370
11610
8775
139
6255
8370
11610
6880.5
9207
12771
8437.5
11700
8842.5
140
6300
8437.5
11700
6930
9281.25
12870
8505
11790
8910
141
6345
8505
11790
6979.5
9355.5
12969
8572.5
11880
8977.5
142
6390
8572.5
11880
7029
9429.75
13068
8640
11970
9045
143
6435
8640
11970
7078.5
9504
13167
8707.5
12060
9112.5
144
6480
8707.5
12060
7128
9578.25
13266
8775
12150
9180
145
6525
8775
12150
7177.5
9652.5
13365
8842.5
12240
9247.5
146
6570
8842.5
12240
7227
9726.75
13464
8910
12330
9315
147
6615
8910
12330
7276.5
9801
13563
8977.5
12420
9382.5
148
6660
8977.5
12420
7326
9875.25
13662
9045
12510
9450
149
6705
9045
12510
7375.5
9949.5
13761
9112.5
12600
9517.5
150
6750
9112.5
12600
7425
10023.75
13860
9180
12690
9585
Historical Notes
The following information is no longer current as of balance update 1.14 released July 7th. However, some may still find it useful for providing context when reviewing older recorded matches.

The break-even point is the moment at which the total cost of building or upgrading a device is returned by that device. Total cost includes both the up front cost as well as any lost income due to the device being offline. For example, a standard mine costs 75 metal to upgrade and is offline for 22 seconds while upgrading. During those 22 seconds, had it been online it would have generated an additional 4 metal per second, or 88 metal. That gives a total metal cost of 75 + 88, or 163 metal. An upgraded mine produces 6, rather than 4 metal per second, meaning that once it has completed it will be recouping 2 metal per second on that 163. The up front cost in terms of time is 22 seconds, and then another 82 seconds is necessary to reach the break-even point at 104 seconds.

In comparison, building a new mine would have a much higher up front cost of 300 metal, but no income would be lost as no existing mine is taken offline. After 30 seconds, it would be recouping the investment at a rate of 4 per second, reaching the break-even point after 75 seconds of operation, or 105 seconds total. To look at it another way, an upgraded mine takes 104 seconds to pay back the 163 total metal investment, while purchasing a new mine takes only 1 second longer to repay the 300 spent. After the break-even point is reached, the new mine would be outpacing the upgraded mine at a rate of 2 per second.

For upgrading Turbines, the total energy cost is an initial 1000, plus 30 seconds offline at 45 energy per second, for a total of 2350 energy. Once upgraded, energy production increases to 67.5, so it would be recovering that 2350 at a rate of 22.5 per second, reaching its break-even point at a total of 135 seconds. In comparison, a new turbine costs 800 energy and completes within 20 seconds, generating an additional 45 energy per second. 18 seconds of operation is sufficient to recoup that 800, so the break-even point is reached in a mere 38 seconds. After which it would be outpacing the upgraded turbine at a rate of 22.5 per second.

Because different commanders affect the building times and income generated by devices, the break-even point can change as a result. Here's a quick summary:

Device
Standard
Pinchfist
Hurricane
Overdrive
New Mine
105s
99s
99s
105s
Upgraded Mine
104s
101s
92s
71s
New Turbine
38s
37s
34s
38s
Upgraded Turbine
135s
131s
117s
90s

Note: Prior to ToG 1.10 (released April 20th, 2018) upgraded mines only produced 5 rather than 6 metal, for a break-even point of 185 seconds. Turbine upgrade metal cost was also reduced to 100 metal from 200.
3 Comments
power CAT 3 Aug @ 1:02pm 
just build new, got it
Latrei 7 Jul, 2020 @ 9:16am 
Hmm yes random obvious observation :p
76561198863616673 30 Jun, 2020 @ 10:31pm 
or you could just upgrade them when you run out of space for more mines